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    Hello my friends,

    So I have been on a search for something bigger than my Tristar, with not much luck. I came across this '02 X7. I spoke with the owner on the phone, and have scheduled a visit tommorrow to check it out (2 hour drive). In the c.l. ad they stated that it needs a new "brain" because some of the gauges are inop. They were thinking from memory that the hours gauge, the speedo, and something else didn't work. I asked if they priced it, and they said $1400.00 for the ecu. Now the kicker. The ad stated that the boat needed a "new tow ball" on the tower. Apparently she hit a bridge and broke off the tow ball on the tower. She said that there was a slight bend in the tower, but the ball was basically broken off. She still has the ball, and srhe told me she asked a shop and they said it could be welded back on?????? Ayone ever heard of damage like this, and what are opinions if this could be safely repaired to board behind?? No perfect pass or cruise, it does have a fat sack under the rear bench, petty good stereo, and only 176 hours. Checkout the ad, looking for any and all opinions. What would ya pay, if any, considering the damage. I am fairly mechanical, so not a deal breaker....NADA value was approx 19K


    http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/3826584285.html

  • #2
    Not sure you will gain room with the X7/197. As far as the gauges go this is what you need http://www.waterskis.com/508062-p/ma..._box_02_04.htm

    I would give the boat a real good look over if they hit a bridge hard enough to break and bend tower. Look for cracks and weld breaks with tower. All areas the tower connects to boat look for damage

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    • #3
      The top of that tower is bent. It should be straight across, not bent backwards. I would bet it will be hard to fold due to misalignment from the impact. Check for cracks in the tower and the gelcoat around the Mount points

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      • #4
        If we go, I definitely plan on checking the tower out very closely; especially the attach points on the hull. I would imagine if the impact was substantial enough, if would surely create spider cracks on the gel where the tower is connected. I realize it won't be much bigger than my Tristar 190 closed bow, but bigger none the less. Anybody seen the wake in an X7? What would be a good negotiating price with the obvious issues at hand? Thanks for the link on the computer....1400 was probably a shop estimate

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Tristarboarder View Post
          Hello my friends,

          So I have been on a search for something bigger than my Tristar, with not much luck. I came across this '02 X7. I spoke with the owner on the phone, and have scheduled a visit tommorrow to check it out (2 hour drive). In the c.l. ad they stated that it needs a new "brain" because some of the gauges are inop. They were thinking from memory that the hours gauge, the speedo, and something else didn't work. I asked if they priced it, and they said $1400.00 for the ecu. Now the kicker. The ad stated that the boat needed a "new tow ball" on the tower. Apparently she hit a bridge and broke off the tow ball on the tower. She said that there was a slight bend in the tower, but the ball was basically broken off. She still has the ball, and srhe told me she asked a shop and they said it could be welded back on?????? Ayone ever heard of damage like this, and what are opinions if this could be safely repaired to board behind?? No perfect pass or cruise, it does have a fat sack under the rear bench, petty good stereo, and only 176 hours. Checkout the ad, looking for any and all opinions. What would ya pay, if any, considering the damage. I am fairly mechanical, so not a deal breaker....NADA value was approx 19K


          http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/3826584285.html
          Do a complete marine survey- it will save you money in the long run and it might make you not buy it, if enough problems are found. It does look clean, although the bare aluminum on the black plenum looks corroded. Was it run in salt water?

          Call around for the MDU box for the gauges- that sounds high. If that price includes a bunch of new gauges, it may be an OK price.

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          • #6
            Is it possible to get a new "OEM" MasterCraft tower to replace? Not some off brand like monster...price? Can you get a newer style OEM from MC?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tristarboarder View Post
              Is it possible to get a new "OEM" MasterCraft tower to replace? Not some off brand like monster...price? Can you get a newer style OEM from MC?
              You can get that tower from new dimension, but a lot of people have had problems with their customer service lately

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              • #8
                Bump.
                I'm guessing new tower + likely hull / glass damage + bad gauges = non boater who has a boat with significant other problems....
                But if not, you might be able to make a real sweet deal on a completed project. I'd love to hear how this played out.
                I spent most of my money on booze, broads and boats. The rest I wasted. - Elmore Leonard

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JimN View Post
                  Do a complete marine survey- it will save you money in the long run and it might make you not buy it, if enough problems are found. It does look clean, although the bare aluminum on the black plenum looks corroded. Was it run in salt water?

                  Call around for the MDU box for the gauges- that sounds high. If that price includes a bunch of new gauges, it may be an OK price.
                  Thought the same thing about saltwater use seeing that plenum. As others have said, get it to a m/c dealer for a owner transfer inspection. Usually ~ $250 and they have a very thorough multipoint inspection including verifying compression, ecu hours, etc. Have them give you their judgement as to saltwater use as well.

                  You need a medallion guage box and at least the upper tower section so have them include replacing these (and anything else found in the quote). That will get you in an educated bargaining position on price. If you are a DIYer, contact new demension and get cost of replacement tower as bare minimum outlay + $600 for the medallion as these can be easily done by someone without any specific boat repair skills. Structural damage is another issue....

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                  • #10
                    Thanks to all who replied. After much oscillation, I decided to pass....the main reasons are not because of the damage etc, because overall it is a pretty clean boat. I just don't want to spend my Summer fixing up yet another boat.....and one that is barely bigger than my current "former project" now descent Tristar. I now have my eyes on an '03 X-10.....the upgrade search continues....

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                    • #11
                      I know 46Chief would have an answer for performance. He rides behind a 197 and he would most likely have some parts for that boat if needed. Maybe an ecu! PM him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JRW160 View Post
                        You can get that tower from new dimension, but a lot of people have had problems with their customer service lately

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                        I second that. There is no other tower as nice as NDT, but my experience was terrible. They still owe me $75.00 for overcharging me even after they said they would refund it.. And a brand new tower with every single option available should not have dings and gouges in it. As well, the stip is you have to inspect it before taking delivery. Problem was that I had to pick it up myself from the shipping yard and they wouldn't let me inspect it. Their towers are awesome. But their customer service is terrible.

                        I don't want that to deter you from getting one. But realize that you need to be on your A game as far as making sure you get what you paid for.

                        Good luck in your search
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                        • #13
                          The ball on those towers are rear mounted, very easy to break off in that situation, would still have tower damage though, might not affect anything but they seem careless, look it over well.

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                          • #14
                            FYI, the X7 I believe is on the 197 hull, and has an awesome slalom wake...
                            What does the fox say?

                            Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding...

                            You know they all have a little string hanging out, but it's not a tampon, it's a price tag...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TxsRiverRat View Post
                              FYI, the X7 I believe is on the 197 hull, and has an awesome slalom wake...
                              Yeah, x7 is just the 197 with a tower and ballast.
                              -Mike

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