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  • 1980 stars & stripes project boat-questions

    This dec I bought a 1980 stars & Stripes project boat with a ford Windsor pcm original eng.
    It needs a lot of TLC. I will be posting pictures and questions as I go. Any useful input is appreciated!

    Questions

    1. What is the WOT and what should I expect in top end speed with a footer behind?

    2. What weight of oil for the engine, and Trans?

    3. How to I figure out the exact engine model and size for parts ordering?

    4. Where can I get the following parts?:
    Mechanical fuel pump
    Sea water pump
    Exhaust lines-hoses
    Solenoid
    Electronic ignition conversion kit
    Propeller (see my propeller thread for input into selection)

    5. What is the process to repair gel coat chips myself? Suppliers?

    6. Anyone installed their own hot water shower using a mixer valve? Does this create a hot water loop or is there a backflow preventer? (I have tapped hot water exit lines before, but never tried mixing.) steps and parts?

    7. The front tracking fin is bent to about 7pm. Can it be bent back or does it need to be replaced? Supplier?
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    Last edited by barefootjoe; 01-06-2010, 11:58 PM. Reason: missed question
    Who reads posts? I just look at the pictures.

  • #2
    my signature contains the link to the manuals posted by mastercraft, oil info and trans info should be in there; as for the prop your local MC dealer or a online source such as overtons, Iboats, or the actual manufacturers site.
    Tom

    1988 ProStar 190 red/gray
    -Ford 351
    -OJ 13x11 prop
    -Kenwood Stereo

    Need a manual go here http://www.mastercraft.com/knowledge/owners_manuals/

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    • #3
      Welcome to Team Talk and congrats on a great looking boat.

      A couple quick answers :

      You most likely have a 351W, although some came with a 302.

      Top speed should be about 44 or 45mph

      There have been lots of discussions about which oil to run. Do a search and you will find lots of reading. I use Valvoline 20w/50.

      I would replace the tracking fin. Not much flexibility there.

      www.skidim.com will become a great source for parts and info. Get a catalog ASAP - it will become your go to book.

      Search for gel-coat threads - again lots of reading. Pretty simple to do if you have some patience.
      - Peter
      TANDEM AXLE PACKAGE $950 DELIVERED
      5 14X5.5 T06 WHEELS W/5 ST215/75R14 KENDA LOADSTAR RADIALS SS CENTER CAPS, LUGS, MOUNTED, BALANCED & READY TO INSTALL


      PM or email me for tire, wheel or package pricing.
      CARBURETOR REBUILDING - $125 + PARTS
      LED lights, Chrome & Powder Coated Lugs
      2 LED 6" BRAKE LIGHTS DELIVERED $25

      tiresplease@gmail.com

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      • #4
        3. How to I figure out the exact engine model and size for parts ordering?

        Poked around and found the info on the boat.

        Engine Model is PLD WR L10 It has a newer holley 4 bl carb.

        Can anyone tell me what size engine this is? and HP?

        Trans is a velvet drive model 10-17-001
        Who reads posts? I just look at the pictures.

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        • #5
          Can you post some pics of the engine?
          1995 Mastercraft Prostar 205

          Former 1986 Mastercraft Skier

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          • #6
            Originally posted by justinglow View Post
            Can you post some pics of the engine?
            I agree. BFJ post a couple pics of the engine.
            - Peter
            TANDEM AXLE PACKAGE $950 DELIVERED
            5 14X5.5 T06 WHEELS W/5 ST215/75R14 KENDA LOADSTAR RADIALS SS CENTER CAPS, LUGS, MOUNTED, BALANCED & READY TO INSTALL


            PM or email me for tire, wheel or package pricing.
            CARBURETOR REBUILDING - $125 + PARTS
            LED lights, Chrome & Powder Coated Lugs
            2 LED 6" BRAKE LIGHTS DELIVERED $25

            tiresplease@gmail.com

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            • #7
              A 351 intake is about 10" wide at the front bolts. A 302 is about 8" wide.
              - Peter
              TANDEM AXLE PACKAGE $950 DELIVERED
              5 14X5.5 T06 WHEELS W/5 ST215/75R14 KENDA LOADSTAR RADIALS SS CENTER CAPS, LUGS, MOUNTED, BALANCED & READY TO INSTALL


              PM or email me for tire, wheel or package pricing.
              CARBURETOR REBUILDING - $125 + PARTS
              LED lights, Chrome & Powder Coated Lugs
              2 LED 6" BRAKE LIGHTS DELIVERED $25

              tiresplease@gmail.com

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              • #8
                nice boat barefoot Joe! I was hoping to find that color to match my pick up and car. I have an 81 that is sand and rootbeer colored.
                Top speed of my boat in stock condition was 43 mph on a GPS, but the motor was laying over due to insufficient fuel or the points being out of wack. I am expecting around 46 out of it when I fix the ignition with a new distributor and a carb rebuild.
                1981 MasterCraft
                19' Skier 351W PowerSlot
                Long gone is the Trans AM waiting for another

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                • #9
                  pics

                  OK, here are some pics.
                  Keep in mind, it is going to get a lot of TLC over the next few months.
                  I have a growing list

                  Let me know what you all would suggest doing to get an undermaintained engine and tranny up and ready for the season.


                  The intake bolts are 9.5 inches center to center.
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                  Who reads posts? I just look at the pictures.

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                  • #10
                    Looks like you have a 351 that would come stock with this boat.

                    The length of time since it has last been run determines how best to deal with it. If its more than a 6 - 8 months, fresh fluids, filters (don't forget fuel filter) & plugs and you are ready to fire up.

                    If longer than that, I would pull the spark plugs and pour an ounce of motor oil into each plug hole. Then get a large 1/2" ratchet and the appropriate socket on the crankshaft pulley and manually turn the engine over a few times. Then change fluids and filters and screw in the new plugs.

                    Make sure you are supplying water to the engine while running, but DO NOT TURN ON THE WATER UNTIL THE ENGINE IS RUNNING. If you turn on the water before you fire her up, you will end up with the water pressure backing up through the exhaust and through partially open exhaust valves and into the oil pan. Getting that oil and water mixed together out of the oil pan is a pain in the a$$.
                    - Peter
                    TANDEM AXLE PACKAGE $950 DELIVERED
                    5 14X5.5 T06 WHEELS W/5 ST215/75R14 KENDA LOADSTAR RADIALS SS CENTER CAPS, LUGS, MOUNTED, BALANCED & READY TO INSTALL


                    PM or email me for tire, wheel or package pricing.
                    CARBURETOR REBUILDING - $125 + PARTS
                    LED lights, Chrome & Powder Coated Lugs
                    2 LED 6" BRAKE LIGHTS DELIVERED $25

                    tiresplease@gmail.com

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                    • #11
                      Here is a video of the boat running when I first picked it up this dec.

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tePytf-kP8I
                      Who reads posts? I just look at the pictures.

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                      • #12
                        It actually sounds pretty good. Mufflers?

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                        • #13
                          Well, its 75 this weekend, CRAZY, normally we have at least 1 snowstorm in late mar/april. I am finally on starting the project, I went through the boat(s) yesterday, and here is the to do list.
                          First things first, to raise the $, I am selling my first boat-the bayliner, and the Glasstron I picked up for nothing last fall, I will try to remember to update with pictures as I go. Underlined items are completed.

                          Any tips or suggestions are welcome!

                          Raise $: Sell Bayliner: rebuild lower unit/shift cable, new bearings, new tires, rebuild carb, floor paint, Polish hull, clean seats, Convert points to rotor cap, trailer light, tachometer.

                          Raise $, Sell Glastron, new stringers, floor, foam, carpet, bilge, Pylon, seats, lower unit seals, Paint vinyl, steering wheel, trailer lights, paint trailer, bearings, tires, gloss coat boat, rope guard
                          ********Mastercraft List **********
                          Replace sea water pump / impeller
                          Replace mechanical fuel pump
                          Replace front n rear solenoid and / install wire from front to back solenoid
                          Wet Exhaust hoses
                          Replace fuel filter
                          Replace water separator
                          Replace driver side plug
                          Remove and clean out gas tank, clean out fuel lines
                          New hoses / belts
                          New exhaust flappers / seals
                          Replace bent bottom fin
                          Bilge electric connection
                          Attach dipstick tube
                          Spark plugs/ wires /
                          convert to cap/rotor
                          Oil / filter change
                          New battery
                          Prop shaft alignment / packing
                          Attach and support swim platform
                          Bearings
                          Wheels
                          tires
                          Fix Trailer lights
                          Mount license plate
                          Mount PA stickers
                          Spare tire mount
                          Fix gelcoat on bottom
                          ACME 541
                          New speedometer, lines, and feed tubes
                          Fix trailer fender crack
                          Mount driver seat
                          Emergency Prop replace tool/kit
                          Polish windshield
                          Wax gel coat
                          Tower / bimi?
                          Barefoot boom
                          Ethanol fuel addative convertor
                          Travel straps/tie downs?
                          Who reads posts? I just look at the pictures.

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                          • #14
                            Real quick question...I did not see any water coming out of tail pipes. Did you have a water source flowing through engine when running. If so, do you know of the sea pump is working properly. Typically, you should have some water coming from the pipes when running out of the water as the water source flows through engine and out of exhaust. Just curious.

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                            • #15
                              It may have still been filling up, but yes, water was flowing out the exhaust, but mostly out the drain plug, due to leaky exhast lines. This boat sat for? years and when we first started it the sea pump was stuck, had to take the belt off and free it by hand. Figured its best just to replace it since its probably pretty corroded.
                              Who reads posts? I just look at the pictures.

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