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    I'm looking to get a new truck and i tow alot.... I tow a work trailer that is about 1500lbs daily and a boat 4 times a week that is about 4300 lbs... i just don't want it to sag in the back either? plus 5.3 or 6.0 or diesel... so either a 1/2 or 3/4 ton ... it will be a crew cab and the bed length is not that big of a deal..

  • #2
    3/4 ton would not fail you....get the diesel, I wished that I would have. I have a HD2500 with the 6.0 and I still feel the boat behind.

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    • #3
      You didn't specify what you wanted to spend. I have a 1500HD Silverado with the 6.0 liter (Crew Cab/Short bed). It tows nice, rides nice empty (for a truck) and I average around 13 mpg while keeping my foot out of it. On a highway trip, I will get around 15 - 16 mpg with the cruise set at 75. Towing my X-15 (around 5000 lbs, I think), I get around 9 - 10 mpg running my 4 hour trip to the lake down I-75. The X-15 bounces the rear of my truck a bit when it gets bumpy makeing me wonder about my shocks or possibly adding some airbags to help out while towing. I definitely know the trailer is back there while crossing the Jellico mountains and on some of the longer uphill sections in KY. I can always put my foot to the floor and accelerate, even uphill, but watching the 'Instand MPG' readout sit on 3 MPG while accelerating up a mile long hill when gas is $3.10 a gallon bothers me. If I had to do it again, I may have gone with the 3/4 ton instead, just because, but other than bumpy towing the boat, I have never really had the need for it. My 1500 does squat a little when the boat is hitched up, but I definitely would not call it sagging. It drops around 1" - 2", I would guess. Never having driven a diesel, I can't really compare the two. I know when I bought my truck in '03, the diesel option was something on the order of another $5 - $6000. That is a lot of extra fuel I have to burn to break even on that upgrade. So back to the first question, what do you want to spend?
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      • #4
        Even though what you tow isn't that heavy I'd go for the diesel if the extra cost doesn't break the bank for you. I've got a 2500hd with the duramax/alli combo and I couldn't be happier when I tow the boat with it. The truck hardly squats at all when the ps190 is hooked up to it and I've pulled it over various mountain passes with the bed full of a weeks worth of gear for 5 people without having to slow down or even have overdrive unlock. The diesel is the way to go. Unloaded daily driving which for me is about 80% highway I get 15-18mpg on average. Kinda depends on how hard I am on the go pedal. Towing I've only seen as low as 14mpg. I'd probably get better averages on both if I'd slow down below 70mph on the highway...

        I always go for a little overkill so if for some reason I'd need to be able to load more stuff or get a bigger boat I won't be kicking myself for not having the right truck.

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        • #5
          It also depends on how long you want to keep the vehicle, the Duramax should last well over 250k miles, 6.0 could also but the resale isnt as good on the gas. I would say the extra money would be worth the desiel.

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          • #6
            I just sold my 2003 2500 crew cab with with the 6.0, it had 300 hp. I replaced it with a 2007 1500 crew cab 5.3. It has 315 horse power and gets 20 mile per gallon with flex fuel engine. Both trucks pulled my boat great but the 1500 rides a lot smoother.
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            • #7
              Get the 2500HD with the Duramax, 360HP 650TQ, six speed allison trans. Pulls my Maristar 210 VRS at any speed, but keep it at 65 and you will get 17-18 mph. I'm getting 15 mph city, and 18-20 highway without towing. Truck has only 5k and still breaking in. Waiting for 20k miles to get programmer to get 500 HP 850TQ or 400HP 740TQ to the wheels. My previous truck was 2000 2500 with 6.0 gas engine, it was always down shifting for hills, the diesel just spools up turbo on hills and keeps the same gear, actually starts to accelerate all without it changing gears. Pretty cool. And quieter interior noise, compared to the 6.0 with dual exhaust out the back.
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              • #8
                I would agree that a 1/2 ton is sufficient. I tow with a 1/2 with no issues and a small block 8 with a new x-15. I think u will always feel the trailer behind you. If you are concerned look at the 1/2 tundra with 10,000 lbs towing capacity. Also there are a lot of SUV's towing big boats doing just fine and those are 1/2 capacity for the most part.. I would go gas because recouping the cost of deisiel will be difficult and limit you options on models.... The way it is going buying more than you need will cost significantly more in fuel costs. Same goes for boats. The x-15 at have again the wait of my singel axle 17 foot glastron tows more nicely than the 17 footer.
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                • #9
                  yea i'm most likely going to go with 1500 or 2500 chevy since i have a gm card rebate plus I'm friends with the truck manager.... since i never owned a truck before I'm just wondering if a 2500 diesel would be over kill but I have a suv now and it need more power and i can feel the boat there with no problem....
                  the diesel is 7k option so it would take a while to pay back that with gas but than again the diesel as better resale so that will make up for it a little.... (& I only keep my cars for 3-5 year at the most)...

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                  • #10
                    I recommend the 1500. The 1500 will easily tow that. I sell alot of them to people that tow and they tow loads like that with NO problem. I see SO many people over buy when it comes to trucks. I only advise people to buy a 3/4 ton if they REALLY need it. I mean REALLY need it. otherwise, your just wasting money. The 1500's they build nowadays are great tow vehicles. If you were towing in excess of 7000 lbs on a regular basis, then I would say look at the 3/4/ but 1500 lbs is a cakewalk, and the 4300 lb boat is NO problem with a 5.3 in a 1500. a 3/4 ton is just not necessary for your needs. and a diesel is really overkill and very expensive. I do recommend the crew cab, very usable. I only recommend a diesel engine if you absolutely have a need for alot of power on a regular basis. Way to many people buy diesels that have NO use for them. Diesel engines are VERY expensive, and cost more to maintain than a gas engine. the fuel economy arguement is mute. You will never gain dollar wise from owning a diesel given the huge cost of the engine, and the maintenence costs, and the fuel prices. Its just not worth it unless you tow or haul very heavy loads on a regular basis. a 1500 with a 5.3 will easily do all you described, with no problem. Good luck!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by floridamastercraft
                      yea i'm most likely going to go with 1500 or 2500 chevy since i have a gm card rebate plus I'm friends with the truck manager.... since i never owned a truck before I'm just wondering if a 2500 diesel would be over kill but I have a suv now and it need more power and i can feel the boat there with no problem....
                      the diesel is 7k option so it would take a while to pay back that with gas but than again the diesel as better resale so that will make up for it a little.... (& I only keep my cars for 3-5 year at the most)...
                      Sounds to me like you are leaning towards the diesel already. GO WITH IT!!! If you need convincing, drive them both. Crewcab, 4x4, short bed, diesel, GMC....Sounds like the perfect combination to me....
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Upper Michigan Prostar190
                        I recommend the 1500. The 1500 will easily tow that. I sell alot of them to people that tow and they tow loads like that with NO problem. I see SO many people over buy when it comes to trucks. I only advise people to buy a 3/4 ton if they REALLY need it. I mean REALLY need it. otherwise, your just wasting money. The 1500's they build nowadays are great tow vehicles. If you were towing in excess of 7000 lbs on a regular basis, then I would say look at the 3/4/ but 1500 lbs is a cakewalk, and the 4300 lb boat is NO problem with a 5.3 in a 1500. a 3/4 ton is just not necessary for your needs. and a diesel is really overkill and very expensive. I do recommend the crew cab, very usable. I only recommend a diesel engine if you absolutely have a need for alot of power on a regular basis. Way to many people buy diesels that have NO use for them. Diesel engines are VERY expensive, and cost more to maintain than a gas engine. the fuel economy arguement is mute. You will never gain dollar wise from owning a diesel given the huge cost of the engine, and the maintenence costs, and the fuel prices. Its just not worth it unless you tow or haul very heavy loads on a regular basis. a 1500 with a 5.3 will easily do all you described, with no problem. Good luck!

                        UMP's informative post number 22.

                        I own a GMC 1500 Ext cab with 3:43 gears and I hate it when towing. It downshifts at every hill and sucks gas like crazy. I will not own another 1500 with 3:43 gears thats for damn sure. A 2500 with 3:73 is in my future.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Maristar210



                          UMP's informative post number 22.

                          I own a GMC 1500 Ext cab with 3:43 gears and I hate it when towing. It downshifts at every hill and sucks gas like crazy. I will not own another 1500 with 3:43 gears thats for damn sure. A 2500 with 3:73 is in my future.
                          Our chevy 1500 was the worst tow vehicle ever. Tranny went a few thousand miles after we sold it. It was still covered by the warrenty. Our Dodge 2500 is incredible. With a big camper and the boat we can hardly tell we are pulling anything. I think you would be wise to get a bigger motor in your future too.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Maristar210
                            A 2500 with 3:73 is in my future.
                            my 2500 sub's got 4:11's
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                            • #15
                              I have peeps that have optional 4:10 rear ends in the 1500 too, and they tow better, and the fuel mileage isnt affected all that much for everyday driving. I just cant see how people have trouble towing with the 1500s. We have alot of people that tow good sized campers with them and have no problems at all. I dont get it. You have to remember people, towing a load behind you is going to require your vehicle to shift more, and you are going to notice it there in the handling. Sometimes I dont know what people expect when it comes to towing.
                              Skidog, dont forget to take your Geritol.

                              On a different note: I like LOTS of snort comin' out of the hole.

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