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    Not sure if it is a boat set up or wrong rider but want help to get my son surfing ropeless. I am not able to get pictures to load on the site so I am posting what I put on Wake World sorry. http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=798998

    Thanks in advance for help!

    Andy

  • #2
    I tend to stand closer to the edge of the board but not sure if that helps me at all....

    What I do know for a fact does help is the super man tactic.... this is where when you know you are slow on the wave you put your arms out like super man to speed up.

    The problem with my boat (205 hull) is the weet spot is VERY small - more weight would help.

    More weight in the rear lockers make the wake taller.

    More weight up front make the longer.

    I noticed the biggest difference when I added weight up front.

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    if I had my druthers I would replace the hard tanks with 750s and get a 500lb triangle up front and maybe a side sack too. (I would then drive very very very carefully )
    https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-w...4/IMG_4883.gif

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    • #3
      What they said and the trim tab should be up.

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      • #4
        There are a few things you can do:

        1. Slightly turn the boat. A 5 or 10 degree turn inward. Try outward as well.

        2. Have him move his back foot and front foot forward an inch or two, maybe three for the back foot. Get his toes closer to the edge of the board. Use the wave to lift the board up, then slide down. Once he finds the pocket, ask him to try to define it by measuring the areas where the rope has slack.

        3. Speed... Try going .5 mph slower, or .5 mph faster. Try going 1 mph faster/slower. Make fine adjustments after that.

        4. Adjust the rope length. Shorter or longer, he could be missing the pocket.

        5. If you can find a bit bigger board it might help. I have a cwb ride that everyone can go rope less. My inland surfer, mucus, is a bit faster and a little more tricky but man I love it. I doubt the board is the problem. Just one thought. Edit: that inland surfer red rocket should work great.

        6. Add more weight in the corner and on the bench side of the boat. More people or buy a couple of 400# sacs. Not sure where ur at, but I'd borrow one first to try it out.

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        • #5
          I have a 2010 x2 and surf. I fill the port side full and the KGB full. the starboard s at 0. No plate down, this raises the back of the boat up which will make the wake smaller. I also have a 500lb sack in the rear port I use. We surf at 9.5-10.2 mph. If you have three people in the boat move them back to the left rear side and this will be the same as the fat sack. Your son looks to have to much weight on his rear leg. From font is gas and rear is for brake.

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          • #6
            Also one thing a lot of people overlook is the water depth. Our wake flattens and washes out around <10'. <7' and its gone.

            Lot of good ideas here, cant think of anymore.

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            • #7
              Yes, I see a difference at 10ft again at 15ft and finally, anything deeper than 20ft seems to be the best. Minimum should be 12-14ft.

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              • #8
                When I was learning it helped to have my toes closer to the inside of the board (closer to wake) and bend at the waist a little to get weight on the toe side edge helping to drive into the wake. By the looks of the picture, he is leaning back pulling on the rope. it may take an hour or two to find the sweet spot and be able to go ropeless for any length of time. I surfed behind stock 2007 X2's before adding a bag to the surf side..........

                Keep at it, you'll get it.
                MISS "B" HAVEN
                2007 X2, Indmar 350 MCX
                OJ 522 14.75 x 15.5
                2006 F150 SCrew Puller
                http://www.crowniehq.net
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                • #9
                  What are the weights of the bags you are using?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by scottsx2 View Post
                    What are the weights of the bags you are using?
                    My single surf side (port side) bag is 455lbs.

                    My best wake settings: (medium sized wake)

                    Starboard side 1/4-1/2 full
                    KGB full
                    Port side full
                    Bag full
                    Plate down 1/4 to lengthen pocket a bit (still not long)
                    9.8 mph

                    Very surfable wake but not huge.....
                    MISS "B" HAVEN
                    2007 X2, Indmar 350 MCX
                    OJ 522 14.75 x 15.5
                    2006 F150 SCrew Puller
                    http://www.crowniehq.net
                    http://banners.wunderground.com/weat.../OR/Albany.gif

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                    • #11
                      I would empty starboard totally, trim tab all the way up, and try speeding up little by little until the white wash is gone from the front (closest to boat, not the face) of the wake. Try a person or two towards the front (still on port side) to lengthen the pocket. The trim tab being down will raise the stern some causing wash. If i put mine down at all my wake disappears.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mossyrocks View Post
                        I would empty starboard totally, trim tab all the way up, and try speeding up little by little until the white wash is gone from the front (closest to boat, not the face) of the wake. Try a person or two towards the front (still on port side) to lengthen the pocket. The trim tab being down will raise the stern some causing wash. If i put mine down at all my wake disappears.
                        Believe me, I've tried many different set ups and this is what works best for my boat with the load I usually carry. I teak it a bit depending on how many people and load we have.

                        This is with a full load of fuel also. I always top off when we are going surfing.
                        MISS "B" HAVEN
                        2007 X2, Indmar 350 MCX
                        OJ 522 14.75 x 15.5
                        2006 F150 SCrew Puller
                        http://www.crowniehq.net
                        http://banners.wunderground.com/weat.../OR/Albany.gif

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BrooksfamX2 View Post
                          Believe me, I've tried many different set ups and this is what works best for my boat with the load I usually carry. I teak it a bit depending on how many people and load we have.

                          This is with a full load of fuel also. I always top off when we are going surfing.
                          I just noticed you were not the OP. Sorry man, thought you (op) were still having problems. Haha.

                          If you have a nice wake perhaps he should copy your setup though.

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                          • #14
                            I am OP, no problem. I had surf tab down (Have not seen that much difference up or down), factory port tank full, kgb full and fly high port rear piggy back and bow bag which are 455 lbs and bow sac is 690 in a v shape so weight is on both sides of the bow actually. I am wondering if I should pull my starboard bag and get a tsunami pump and mount under glove box to sink the port more? Would rather not add more weight if not needed.

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                            • #15


                              2005 x2 factory ballast on starboard side 500 fly high on starboard side & front ballast full and 3 people seems to surf fine try squaring his body up more with the wake and then What these other guys have suggested also I think the wake you have is ridable just get the technic down first.

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