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  • '89 Tristar dead in water - on labor day wknd!!

    Just grabbed an '89 Tristar 220 with the Ford 351 (Indmar) engine. Thing runs like a top - former owner was a Corvette mechanic and it's apparent by the overall appearance, sound and overall performance of the motor and carb. HOWEVER, was out with the squad (have 6 kids - YES, 6!!) and boat was running great. Turned boat off to let kids back on boat after tubing and.... dead. Turned key and dead silence. Had turned it on and off numerous times that day and previously with no issues at all. Got back to dock (after getting a tow by a Nautique who quickly told me I shouldn't have bought a "Mastercrap"...) Came here first and have read numerous threads here about starter issues so I'm thinking it's a solenoid issue (since starter doesn't even engage - yes, I whacked it lightly with a hammer.) Battery reads well. All connections look solid and no corrosion. Anyone have thoughts?? Am I on the right track with the solenoid? If so, do I need to pay particular attention to the specific make/model of solenoid? Thx to all in advance!

  • #2
    Been down the solenoid road. Purchased a brand new starter motor with gear reduction, less amps more torque. For $200, it's well worth the investment.

    This might help:

    http://www.skidim.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RK122014

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    • #3
      PS - You can usually score a 10% discount as well. Just look on their homepage for details. Good luck.

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      • #4
        Thanks Rob. Any thoughts on the electronic ignition? That seems to be a favorable path as well...

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        • #5
          Again, EI will be money well spent. Skidim has what you need. You'll find that they are a great source for parts and solid information.

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          • #6
            Try this....when starting the boat. Take your SHIFT lever and giggle ever so slightly back and forth Forward to Reverse. NOT so the throttle clicks out of neutral. What might be happening is the NEUTRAL SAFETY switch is out of adjustment. (Less than 1/4 in each way) Do this while you are starting the boat.

            Jim@BAWS
            Last edited by Jim@BAWS; 09-07-2009, 10:15 AM.
            James (Jim) Kranendonk Pres-BAWS
            Tampa Bay's Exclusive MasterCraft Dealer

            www.BAYAREAWATERSPORTS.com
            (813) 996-BAWS (2297)

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            • #7
              Good advise from BAWS. Also make sure the saftey lanyard is connected fully and that the clip hasn't bent or broken.

              I had a 89 190 TriStar that the ignition switch just quit working one day. Try turning the key and giggling it a bit and see if anything starts to work or if the starter kicks in a bit.

              I'm sure JimN could provide better dianogistic help but this is quick and easy.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ROB View Post
                Again, EI will be money well spent. Skidim has what you need. You'll find that they are a great source for parts and solid information.

                89 EI was standard

                Replace only CAP AND ROTOR

                Not condensor or points

                Jim@BAWS
                James (Jim) Kranendonk Pres-BAWS
                Tampa Bay's Exclusive MasterCraft Dealer

                www.BAYAREAWATERSPORTS.com
                (813) 996-BAWS (2297)

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                • #9
                  I bow to the master.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Adks View Post
                    Thanks Rob. Any thoughts on the electronic ignition? That seems to be a favorable path as well...
                    On our 1989 Prostar190 351W, I went from points/condenser in 2003 with a Prestolite EI/Breakerless ignition conversion kit and haven't look back, money well spent.
                    Here is a great EI/Breakerless conversion tutorial for your use in the General Discussion FAQ, http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/sh...ronic+ignition
                    Last edited by TMCNo1; 09-07-2009, 10:27 AM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ROB View Post
                      I bow to the master.
                      Please don't say that...Just quoting facts.

                      In 89 it was probably a mid year upgrade. Some may have had it others may have not.

                      I remember that being a BIG DEAL as we never had to mess w/ points and condensers again. The PRESTOLITE upgrade is nice. It is not REALL electronic iginition but just a nice upgrade that makes a TON of sense to do. Pretty easy. Older motors you need to bypass the ceramic ballast resistor

                      Jim@BAWS
                      James (Jim) Kranendonk Pres-BAWS
                      Tampa Bay's Exclusive MasterCraft Dealer

                      www.BAYAREAWATERSPORTS.com
                      (813) 996-BAWS (2297)

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                      • #12
                        Put new solenoid on this am and it didn't do a thing, so I've backed my way to the ignition. I'll try to giggle the throttle as Jim suggested. Thanks for all the input!

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                        • #13
                          You did read about the safety lanyard in an earlier post, right? I've had one of those switches fail in the past as opposed to the lanyard being pulled.

                          Edit - on second thought the lanyard would allow the boat to turn over but not start.....
                          '97 Prostar 190 - LT-1

                          Prior boats - 2009 X14, 2008 X14, 2005 197, 1988 Tristar 190, 1989 Prostar.

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                          • #14
                            Jim - your throttle suggestion was spot on! Fired right up. Suggestions on off-season maintenance to keep it from happening again?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Adks View Post
                              Jim - your throttle suggestion was spot on! Fired right up. Suggestions on off-season maintenance to keep it from happening again?
                              It is such a MINOR adjustment. I would not worry about it. Just know what you need to do in the future. Probably your best bet is a NEW shift cable. Do not worry about it today. Enjoy the next couple of weekends on the water. I know that up there in NY you have not had the warmest, longest summer possible. Just enjoy the rest of it. Glad I was able to help.
                              Labor Day or not !!!!

                              Jim@BAWS
                              James (Jim) Kranendonk Pres-BAWS
                              Tampa Bay's Exclusive MasterCraft Dealer

                              www.BAYAREAWATERSPORTS.com
                              (813) 996-BAWS (2297)

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