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  • Possible 93 PS 190 Project...Advice Please!

    Greetings,

    OK, so this is my first post here on the forum as I am a new member and about to be a new owner of a Mastercraft tow boat. I grew up on a water ski team in Northern WI and have been looking at getting into skiing and a boat for a reasonable price... I think I might have found what I am looking for.

    The boat is a 93 PS190 that I have ties to through a good friend of mine that lives in Tacoma, WA. This boat is owned by his boss and my buddy has spent many hours in this boat as his boss has let him use it often over the past 5-7 years. I will also say that I know my friend is quite knowledgeable in regards to maintaining the drivetrain and hull of boats. That being said, he believes the boat is very solid and really just needs some elbow grease. The following pics are what I am dealing with:

    The boat was not used much at all in salt water, but was stored near the coast, so there is some corrosion issues on things like mounting screws, the trailer, and other misc things. The boat is solid though, the floor is good, the gel coat is good, and the motor runs great, but it does not look very good as can be seen in the pics (second post).

    So now that I have rambled on, this is where I ask for advice. I can get the boat as is for $4,000 and will have almost a grand into the trip to go get it. Given the pics and the limited info I have provided, is this something that I should consider? What else should I bee looking for? Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks!
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    So, what engine is that? I would of expected a Ford 351, carb engine but it looks like a GM....but also a carb. Has it been switched somehow or was this avaliable that year?

    The upholstery looks to be redone and the rear seat doesn't look to be correct (modified during re-upholstery perhaps).
    - Jeff

    1994 205, LT1

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    • #4
      93 with a Chevy? hmm thought they were Ford 351's - used in salt water always get's me thinking.. lot's of rust on the riser union.

      What's your budget for repairs? A new set of risers and exhaust manifolds will be about $1K. I'd immediately install a new raw water pump - $185 - Kyle has a cool cupholder..


      How many hours total? Wheres the top of the ski pylon?

      If you're going to drive it back - would check drums and throw in a new set of bearings.

      How old are the tires on trailer?

      How do the springs look?

      Do trailer breaks work? Trailer break refurb - $500-$1K
      sigpic...A bad day water skiing still beats a good day at work...1995 Pro Star 205....

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      • #5
        Rusty. Personally, I wouldn't touch anything that's touched salt water... Ever.

        My. 02

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        • #6
          He put the Chevy motor in the boat about 5 years ago as I believe the previous motor failed at some point, total hours on the boat is just over 700, and the top of the ski pylon is in the storage area (I think it was removed so the tall pylon could be slotted over it). I really do not think it has had a lot of salt water use, but I am going to build a list of questions to ask this week. The good thing is that my buddy gets nothing out of me buying this boat, so he is making sure I get all the questions answered without any BS. The owner is not desperate to get rid of it (he has several boats), and does not need to get much out of it - it is a real casual sort of deal.

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          • #7
            For the amount of money and time to get in good shape, you would be better off finding a clean one local.

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            • #8
              Nice project boat! If it runs and you can ski behind it then $4K is an ok price (although I'd try to knock that down a bit if possible)

              If the trailer is really rusty, I'd think twice about trailering it home. Try to rent a flatbed trailer somewhere or use Uship.com

              Even if the engine doesn't last, you could spend up to $6K more in repairs/cosmetics and still only have $10K into it and it will last you another 10-20 years with proper care.

              Clean up what you can, change all the fluids, tune up, impeller, belt, etc and run it.
              You may want to get a marine survey done since you're so far away. Good ammo to negotiate a lower price.
              I was njskier on here.

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              • #9
                for 3-4k do it.. even a brand new reman is 2800 for an lt1...

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by Jerseydave View Post
                  Nice project boat! If it runs and you can ski behind it then $4K is an ok price (although I'd try to knock that down a bit if possible)

                  If the trailer is really rusty, I'd think twice about trailering it home. Try to rent a flatbed trailer somewhere or use Uship.com

                  Even if the engine doesn't last, you could spend up to $6K more in repairs/cosmetics and still only have $10K into it and it will last you another 10-20 years with proper care.

                  Clean up what you can, change all the fluids, tune up, impeller, belt, etc and run it.
                  You may want to get a marine survey done since you're so far away. Good ammo to negotiate a lower price.
                  I agree, but why do all that work? For 10k you could get a need nothing locally...

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                  • #11
                    It has 93 gel coat scheme, what appears to be some 93 interior pieces with a modified back seat, a chevy motor and dash pod out of a 91. Seems this boat has had some weird things done to it. Why would you put a chevy in rather than repair the ford? I would stay away from that boat for those reasons but look at all the corrosion on everything.

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                    • #12
                      That boat appears to be pretty well molested, stay away.
                      1996 ProStar 190
                      PCM ZR6 W/ Zero Off

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                      • #13
                        Post up the hull #. I doubt that boat is a '93

                        1) engine should be a ford. The replacing it with a 350 is fine bc Chevys are cheaper to build than a ford 351. But, was the proper cam installed or does it have high out put heads, etc on it. I bet it is a normal 350 with not a lot of power.

                        2) the dash is not a '93 dash. It is a '91 dash.

                        3) the captain chair is not even a Mastercraft seat. If it was a '93 the the sides would not dip down where you can see bottom seat coushin from the sides.

                        4) the back seat is not even a mc seat. It was made so 3 passengers could sit back there but it is not original. I wonder what kind of material was made to build it.

                        5) the gel is great. If you purchase it use colanite 3 stage oxidation remover. Wipe on hand buff off. Very little elbow grease needed. If you have a buffer then badda bing a Saturday afternoon and she will look new. Also sand and oil the teak platform. There are plenty of threads here on how to DIY.

                        6) the trailer is a huge concern. A new trailer can be had for 4k. This being said make sure the trailer is not a pos.


                        Personally you can revive the boat and make it look very presentable. The back seat doesn't do it for me but if you're on a budget then I say get something that gets you on the water and let the labor of love get to work.


                        Btw it appears to have the power slot transmission. That is a very nice item to have.

                        I wouldn't rule it out bc of the engine conversion, I would just drive it and see if you like it. All of the pink in the gell will come out and be bright red again. But you will spend lots of hours putting the love into her.
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                        • #14
                          Pass on the boat. There is no such thing as a good deal when it comes to buying someone else's problems. If the other person is willing to give you $4,000 to take the boat off his hands, that is what I would consider a good deal. Otherwise, walk away, in my opinion.

                          Salt is always an issue, regardless. You'll need new heads too.

                          Too many what-ifs... The guy that said the boat has been well cared for, etc??? Poo-Poo....and a lot of it..

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                          • #15
                            These boats can be found for 10k with <1000 hours in pristine shape. The trailer is probably toast if it was in salt water. Take a ball peen hammer to every crossmember and I bet you find some dead spots. Find one in better shape, you will be skiing right away. Only buy this if you can get the price to 2k and you have a few hundred hours of free time to work on it.

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