'07 Ford Expedition & EL

[Ryan]

So Ryan, how goes the search?

Over the weekend I decided to hold off buying a new car until after we get into a house in OH. Unless I come accross a deal I cannot pass up. I am mostly tempted to buy now, because I have had a really easy time selling cars private party in So CA. I fear that Columbus being a smaller market will prolong the process of selling my 4Runner or affect my pricing.

I drove my brother-in-law's Yukon XL Denali around this weekend with the 6.0L and was please that it can accelerate at a rate close enough to my 4Runner to not get too bored driving. It still drives like a tall tank and there are already some squeaks and rattles, particularly in the door pannels. 10.4 avg mpg is a little disturbing though.

PendO, what kind of mileage are you seeing?

[Sodar]

and the dmax is for a 3/4 ton platform, now, if they put a dmax into a 3/4 (2500) suburban that would be interesting, but again, it likely would not work on the 1500 platform (otherwise you cold get a dmax in a 1/2 ton gm truck.)

There has been a letter writing campaign from a few offshore boat sites that I vist, begging GM for a diesel to be put into a Suburban/Yukon XL. My neighbor had a '90 Suburban with a diesel and I would do anything to find one like it and restore it... those things were BEASTS!!

[PendO]

PendO, what kind of mileage are you seeing?

in town around 12-13 (it's winter so most of the time we waste some gas letting the car warm up) ... on the hwy (spokane to billings) 17-18 ... that it with a lot of elevation changes ... I suppose the denali could see slightly better mileage with the 3.73, versus the 4.10 rear end on the suburban w/ the 6L

[dapicatti]

I try not to look....seems like we are gettting 11-12 in town, 18-19 hwy in our 07 Denali. It seems dismal, but love the Denali so its worth it to me.

[dapicatti]

double post

[Ryan]

There has been a letter writing campaign from a few offshore boat sites that I vist, begging GM for a diesel to be put into a Suburban/Yukon XL. My neighbor had a '90 Suburban with a diesel and I would do anything to find one like it and restore it... those things were BEASTS!!

I had a '86 3/4ton Suburban, 4x4 with that Detroit Diesel in High School. It was great. At the time I really envied the '94 (I think it was) that had the turbo diesel decal down each of the two grooves in the hood and the better engine of the two IMHO.

[bcampbe7]

Ryan, you should go back to the Land Rover famliy and pick-up a LR3!

My wife and I just bought a 2004 Yukon XL and couldn't be happier. Most everything about this vehilce is way better than our D2. The only thing I don't care for is that you see these vehicles everywhere you turn. Not necessarily a bad thing mind you, but... I wanted a nice smooth comfy ride due to the fact that we take long road trips a few times per year.

A firend of mine has a '06 4 runner and to be honest, I didn't care for the ride. His is a SE with V6 though, so take that for what it's worth.

[Ryan]

Ryan, you should go back to the Land Rover famliy and pick-up a LR3!

My wife and I just bought a 2004 Yukon XL and couldn't be happier. Most everything about this vehilce is way better than our D2. The only thing I don't care for is that you see these vehicles everywhere you turn. Not necessarily a bad thing mind you, but... I wanted a nice smooth comfy ride due to the fact that we take long road trips a few times per year.

A firend of mine has a '06 4 runner and to be honest, I didn't care for the ride. His is a SE with V6 though, so take that for what it's worth.

I can't justify a Disco again. The LR3 is nice, but geeze they hiked the price more than the improvement in my eyes. The volume of Yuk/Subs sure helps with spare parts I suppose.

I agree the 4Runner isn't perfect for the passengers. Did you get to drive it? The V6 is pretty good night and day better than my '94 was. But the V8 combined with taught SE suspension is fun to drive for me.

I'm still waiting to find out what my next co. car will be. That may sway my buying and timing decisions in a lot of different directions.

[Utahfoiler]

go with the Nissan Armada. It is slightly bigger, weighs less and has more power and better gas mileage.

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/nvc/nissan/VehicleComparison?NissanSessionId=null&op=0&tab=advantage&isbasecar=true&modelid=&styleid=&refid=&maxvehicles=3&vehicleindex=&removestyle=&numCars=2&just=left&modelId0=100519483&styleId0=100804607&modelId1=100505831&styleId1=100782780

I have an 04 with 58,000 miles on it. I can tow my X-30 with no problem.

[Workin' 4 Toys]

WFT, you want to handle my light work.

If I ever meet her, I'll let you know....

[Ryan]

go with the Nissan Armada. It is slightly bigger, weighs less and has more power and better gas mileage.

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/nvc/nissan/VehicleComparison?NissanSessionId=null&op=0&tab=advantage&isbasecar=true&modelid=&styleid=&refid=&maxvehicles=3&vehicleindex=&removestyle=&numCars=2&just=left&modelId0=100519483&styleId0=100804607&modelId1=100505831&styleId1=100782780

I have an 04 with 58,000 miles on it. I can tow my X-30 with no problem.

Though I once disliked the mixed styling on the Armada, I really like it now. There is a lot more second row leg room than both pre-'06 and '07 Suburban. However, I have to pass it by since none of my kids can reach the rear door handle without a step ladder. I wish they'd have saved a few bucks in production and just used the rear doors on the 4d Titan.

I was doing some math last night. If I buy a used large SUV rather than new, I can raise my home purchase price by more than $20k. Those Excursions are going for CHEAP. My wife isn't a fan of the dutch doors though.

[CHaus21]

not gona happen

not enough units to justify ford to invest in 2nd diesel that will fit the expedition

and the dmax is for a 3/4 ton platform, now, if they put a dmax into a 3/4 (2500) suburban that would be interesting, but again, it likely would not work on the 1500 platform (otherwise you cold get a dmax in a 1/2 ton gm truck.)

The redesigned Exped will get a diesel, as well as the Navi and the F-150. However it is going to be until at least 2009/2010 before you see a diesel in those vehicles.