HELP... Ran out of gas now won't start

[toothawk]

I have a new (to me) 2003 X-10 EFI... was out on the lake today and ran out of gas. Well, in my defense the gauge still read 1/2 of 1/4 left so in my book we still had plenty of gas (guess I need a new book). Anyway, it konked out... tried starting again, ran a few seconds and konked out again. Tried starting again and again, nothing. Then got towed back, refueled and now won't start at all. BUT, I don't hear the fuel pump running when I turn the key. Is it poss I blew the fuse to the fuel pump and if so, WHERE IN THE HECK IS THE FUSE for the fuel pump??? Oh, I figured out it may be the fuel pump because I don't hear it run and I took off the round silver thing on the top on the engine where the fuel injectors are and no gas squirting when I turn the key. Help me PLEASE..... any thoughts out there????

[André]

Me think you gonna need a new fuel pump.You ran this one dry and they don't like it.Happen a lot ,do a search here and you'll see it being discuss many times.

[boatwake]

MYMC warned me not to run these in-tank fuel pumps dry. He stated you can burn them up pretty easy. Not sure how you would check it, but I would start there.

[Diesel]

Fuel pump for sure............

[P-hat_in_Cincy]

Hey toothhawk,
IMO, the best fuel gauge is the one where you unscrew the round black floor plate and look to see the fuel level. As you probably have learned, do not trust the fuel gauge.
Mine is whacked too...btw.
P

[toothawk]

Well, may be an expensive lesson but one not to be repeated that's for sure.... thanks for the imput....

[jayocheskey]

Hey toothhawk,
IMO, the best fuel gauge is the one where you unscrew the round black floor plate and look to see the fuel level. As you probably have learned, do not trust the fuel gauge.
Mine is whacked too...btw.
P

I am in total agreement here. My gauge also reads about a quarter of a tank more than is actually in the tank. The only reliable solution is to see the level for yourself.

[planoboy]

See linked thread. I think I my fuel pump relay went out. Schematic supplied by Engine Nut might help you. The Relay on my boat (Vdrive) is located fwd engine portside right above starter.
Pin numbers are marked inside and outside relay.
Regards,
Plano

http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=2994

[rick s.]

Don't know if this will help, but a couple of years ago was out on my friends Air Nautique. Boat quit out in the middle of the lake and we cranked and cranked to motor trying to get it to start. Got towed back to the dock (it wasn't far thank goodness). Not out of gas. Cranked some more, with no luck. Out of desperation I unscrewed the fuel fill cap and the boat started right up.

Not saying that this is your problem, as it sounds like the fuel pump, but you might try it.

[Engine Nut]

See linked thread. I think I my fuel pump relay went out. Schematic supplied by Engine Nut might help you. The Relay on my boat (Vdrive) is located fwd engine portside right above starter.
Pin numbers are marked inside and outside relay.
Regards,
Plano
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=2994

Don't use that diagram for a newer engine! It is only good for MEFI 1 or MEFI 2 ECM's where the fuel pump driver is a 12V signal. Newer engines, with the smaller square shaped ECM, have fuel pump drivers that complete a ground path rather than supplying voltage. I have attached a diagram for the newer system. By the way, the fuse for the fuel pump is loacted near the ECM, inder a cover with two other fuses. I have included a diagram. The fuses are located under the cover indicated by number 2 on the diagram.

Engine Nut

[Married2Maristar]

Anyone have links to this still? The old link is a dead end now. Put in gas at start of day but foolishly didn’t fill it up as we were in a hurry (why a time saver!) to meet some friends at the lake. Pretty sure ran out of gas. Now won’t turn over after adding. Is their anyway to “prime the pump” anything so should check before replacing fuel pump?

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[JohnnyB]

Turns but no firing could be kill switch/lanyard too...

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[Wolflake X-2]

Fuel pump gone


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[Married2Maristar]

May not be the fuel as I thought. My tank is 170 L. Put in 30 at start of day ran for 3 hours. Put in 40 lakeside when it wouldn’t start. Filled up after getting boat on trailer and maxed out at 101 L. So if I was empty I should have been able to put in 120 to 130 L. So now I’m forced to look elsewhere. I suppose it could be fuel pump still but not from running it on empty. Could be the lanyard and I hope it is! Now that I think about it, it is making the sound I read about someone saying to do when trying to bump the impeller after a change when on land without turning engine over. You Remove the lanyard and turn the key briefly. I wasn’t driving when it turned off so maybe my buddy bumped or stretched the lanyard off. I do remember start of day it was off and pushing it back up. That would be dead simple! One other thing the fuel tank cap was incredibly tight at the gas station had to get gloves on to get it off to fuel up. This after our several spaced out attempts to start on the lake. Would it get really tight from negative pressure from numerous attempts to start?

[Married2Maristar]

Since I was thinking it was fuel pump related I went to the below thread and removed tested both relays and observed the 3 fuses intact that area. I wrote down my results but my multimeter doesn’t give out OL it puts out 1 to the opposite side of where it normally reads out. So still determining what I found. Of course I cleaned the battery terminals and added in dielectric grease (they were cleaned within the last month but grease did need replenishing I also tightened the connections) I also toggled the lanyard off and on. Boat turned over this morning. So hopefully that’s the end of it but I’m prepared for more. Time to order a new fuel sender

https://teamtalk.mastercraft.com/showthread.php?p=1528882