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  • Good read on ILMOR

    Several years ago, Mastercraft was a sponsor of Panther Racing, a full time race team competing in what was then called the Indy Racing Leag...

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    Nice find. I wonder how much longer Indmar will be a choice in new boats.
    2006 Maristar 200 SS

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    • #3
      Not long IMHO

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rgardjr1 View Post
        Nice find. I wonder how much longer Indmar will be a choice in new boats.
        Competition may be good for boat owners. Since Penske owns Ilmor and MC, I doubt Malibu, Nautique, Supra/Moomba or any other manufacturer will be rushing out to buy engines from Ilmor.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by duckguy View Post
          Not long IMHO
          Why? If nobody asks for specific changes to the performance from Indmar, they have no real reason to change anything and there's nothing wrong with Indmar engines. I also don't remember seeing anyone from Ilmor coming here to give free info, like EngineNut has.

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          • #6
            JimN, the reality is that the Ilmor motors are superior in terms of performance and design. I have driven them and seen tests by others and they appear to have stronger performance characteristics. The other part is that this is business, with Penske owning a manufacturer of a superior product why would they want to go to a third party that from what I hear cause them a lot of behind the scenes internal grief?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JimN View Post
              Why? If nobody asks for specific changes to the performance from Indmar, they have no real reason to change anything and there's nothing wrong with Indmar engines. I also don't remember seeing anyone from Ilmor coming here to give free info, like EngineNut has.
              I would say give them time. How long was Indmar a supplier to MC before they came out with EngineNut? Ilmor has only been there a few months. I would hope they come out with the same or better forum

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              • #8
                Originally posted by duckguy View Post
                JimN, the reality is that the Ilmor motors are superior in terms of performance and design. I have driven them and seen tests by others and they appear to have stronger performance characteristics. The other part is that this is business, with Penske owning a manufacturer of a superior product why would they want to go to a third party that from what I hear cause them a lot of behind the scenes internal grief?
                That's fine but MC isn't the only boat maker using Indmar and if the others are happy with what they're getting, there's no reason they should feel they need to change. Also, not every boat owner feels the need for speed and knowledge of the specs. The majority wouldn't know what they were looking at if a spec sheet was in front of them, anyway. Obviously, some users are far more interested and know a lot more and for them, the Ilmor makes sense. Bottom line- the Indmar motors don't have many problems- it's usually the accessories that fail, an occasional mis-measured location (like the alternator pulley) or an incorrect bolt hardness (like the alternators on the LT-1/LTR). The motors themselves rarely scatter without some outside influence.

                Plus, you can't put an engine that puts out a buttload of power and torque in a hull that may not have been designed for it. These aren't go-fast boats.

                You don't expect Sea Ray to stop using Mercruiser drive-trains, do you?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Prostar19 View Post
                  I would say give them time. How long was Indmar a supplier to MC before they came out with EngineNut? Ilmor has only been there a few months. I would hope they come out with the same or better forum
                  EngineNut is a person, not a thing- he's a member of Team Talk.

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                  • #10
                    Seems more like and ad then anything else.
                    -Tim

                    Making boomers great again!! Boomin'

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JimN View Post
                      EngineNut is a person, not a thing- he's a member of Team Talk.
                      oops i goofed on that one

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                      • #12
                        I originally poised the question more from a business standpoint vs which manufacturer makes the better product. If Penske still has a stake in both Ilmore and Mastercraft seems like the writing is on the wall after a few years of gearing up and shaking down the new product line.
                        2006 Maristar 200 SS

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                        • #13
                          Hit on the head! In this case Ilmor also makes a superior product. Win win!

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                          • #14
                            Also find it a little funny there is concern about Ilmor HP. Why advertise? The Indmar's have been over rated for years!

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                            • #15
                              Ilmor definitely knows how to make HP....

                              looks like fun

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