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  • #76
    If it was going to BLOW UP it was going to happen to us.
    sigpicBoats owned

    2013 PS WTT 197
    1989 PS 190 2010 PS 197 TT
    1990 PS 190 2011 PS 197WTT
    1992-1999 PS 190 2012 PS 197 WTT
    2001 TT 190 2002 197 TT
    2003 PS 197 TT
    2004 PS 197 TT
    2005 PS 197 TT
    2006 PS 197 TT
    2007 PS 197 TT
    2008 PS 197 TT
    2009 PS 197 TT

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    • #77
      I believe the RTP was discontinued as it no longer met emissions standards in several states.
      2008 X star, 2005 X2

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      • #78
        Did you really take the new car hickey that many times??? WOW
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        Originally posted by bturner2
        Myself I'll live on the edge and surf without a helmet.

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        • #79
          TT197 how did you like it?

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          • #80
            That engine is awesome 6.0L that is. And I have had ever Indmar endine since 351 to current
            sigpicBoats owned

            2013 PS WTT 197
            1989 PS 190 2010 PS 197 TT
            1990 PS 190 2011 PS 197WTT
            1992-1999 PS 190 2012 PS 197 WTT
            2001 TT 190 2002 197 TT
            2003 PS 197 TT
            2004 PS 197 TT
            2005 PS 197 TT
            2006 PS 197 TT
            2007 PS 197 TT
            2008 PS 197 TT
            2009 PS 197 TT

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            • #81
              My 2 Cents...

              Originally posted by sand2snow22 View Post
              Please enlighten me on how he did this?
              Penske purchased MC.

              Penske lost a lot of $ from his MasterCraft investment.

              Penske is close with Wyzata Investment partners being they are partnered with Penske Trucking.

              Wyzata purchased MC

              Now you take Penske and Wyzata. Penske and Ilmore have worked closely for years together. Add all the pieces of the puzzle together and it is what it is.

              http://www.boating-industry.com/output.cfm?id=2207269

              http://www.boats.com/blog/2010/12/ma...o-ilmor-power/

              Ilmore engines/MC will all work out fine in the end. I wish MC and Ilmore the best!

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              • #82
                Originally posted by MCwake View Post
                Penske purchased MC.

                Penske lost a lot of $ from his MasterCraft investment.

                Penske is close with Wyzata Investment partners being they are partnered with Penske Trucking.

                Wyzata purchased MC

                Now you take Penske and Wyzata. Penske and Ilmore have worked closely for years together. Add all the pieces of the puzzle together and it is what it is.

                http://www.boating-industry.com/output.cfm?id=2207269

                http://www.boats.com/blog/2010/12/ma...o-ilmor-power/

                Ilmore engines/MC will all work out fine in the end. I wish MC and Ilmore the best!
                I'm really trying not to be argumentative, but you're not answering the question. That's great, I can see the transaction history, just wonder how you think Penske, Wyzata, etc. brought MC to it's knees??
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                • #83
                  I see. My intent of my original post was concern with a new product and Penske trying to recoup some invested $ he lost during his ownership of MC by introducing Ilmore to Wyzata/MC. Penske "bringing MC to its knees" was my poor use of words. My bad. MC had a lot of debit beofe Penske came in. The state of the economy and over enthusiastic production numbers was what brought MC and just about every other business in US to its knees. Things are getting better. I hope this new partnership helps out everyone!

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                  • #84
                    I am following now. You could very well be right about this........

                    Originally posted by MCwake View Post
                    My intent of my original post was concern with a new product and Penske trying to recoup some invested $ he lost during his ownership of MC by introducing Ilmore to Wyzata/MC.
                    www.nwboatsports.com
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                    • #85
                      I can see why MC made the decision but I don't know if I like it from a customer perspective. But change can be a good thing.
                      I sure hope Ilmore has plans in 2012 for a bigger engine than the 6.2L for the X-45 and X-55. Or atleast supercharge it like the Indmar LSA. The 6.2 will work for most people in the 45 but it sure won't work for those looking for more power and in the 55.

                      This move by MC sure has put a twist in my future upgrade plans........
                      2008 X-45 Pro Tour Red and White

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by MCwake View Post
                        I see. My intent of my original post was concern with a new product and Penske trying to recoup some invested $ he lost during his ownership of MC by introducing Ilmore to Wyzata/MC. Penske "bringing MC to its knees" was my poor use of words. My bad. MC had a lot of debit beofe Penske came in. The state of the economy and over enthusiastic production numbers was what brought MC and just about every other business in US to its knees. Things are getting better. I hope this new partnership helps out everyone!
                        This is a decent analysis, IMO.
                        Prior boats - (3) X14's, (3) Prostars, and a Tristar.

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                        • #87
                          Businesses that were not highly leveraged have faired much better than companies with ridiculous debt loads like MC.
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                          Originally posted by bturner2
                          Myself I'll live on the edge and surf without a helmet.

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                          • #88
                            I can't believe....there's more arguing and trashtalking about Ilmors than Powerstrokes!
                            '06 X2 MCX

                            "I understand why some people may not want to do this the way I have recommended but I can't understand the death grip some people have on a toilet plunger with a hose fitting." -JimN

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Thrall View Post
                              I can't believe....there's more arguing and trashtalking about Ilmors than Powerstrokes!
                              It's particularly impressive because only 1 person by my count (TT197) has even driven a boat with an Ilmor engine.
                              1996 Prostar 190, 350 TBI and Powerslot

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                              • #90
                                ShawnB, did any of the boats you test drove at the factory have Ilmor engines? I see you ordered your X-25 with one.

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