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My son in laws x7 has taken a few waves over the bow, he got 1 to go clear over the windshield a couple of weeks ago. Manage your weight distribution and "NO POWER TURNS" is the key. After dropping a skier/boarder I drop down to idle in gear and wait for the PUSH from behind of your own wakes then you can circle around without any of your waves in your way. Also keeps the water flat and the person in the water don't get the bounce and bob from you running circles around them at speed. Also, if it's to late to avoid other peoples rollers coming at you sometimes you can BACK out from them enough to minimize or eliminate water over the bow, remember what happened to the guy that tried to lift the nose after it was to late with 12 people in the bow.....
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Originally posted by BRAZOS 205 View Post'97 PS205 - I took a roller straight on at idle the first year of ownership and had a double dip incident. I had 3 adults up front and the bow dipped after the first roller and took on water, but then the weight from all the water in the bow lowered the nose even more for the second roller taking on even more water. It was a nasty cycle that took much more throttle than I was used to giving to trim up the bow. Needless to say, it was a bum pucker moment. Took awhile to get the water pumped out with the bilge pump.
You have to pay attention to all oncoming roller/waves in these boats. I don't restrict seating in my bow because of it. I have only dipped the nose once since then, but I mainly keep to rivers and small lakes that don't have large chop created by wind or large boats. Now, wake surfing wakes are another story. I'm testing the limits of rollers I can take from the side/parallel in my PS 205.
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Wow, only over the bow? I've had waves go over the bow, accross the seats, over the windows and then into the glove/radio box and onto the driver! 2000 pounds of ballast certainly helps.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by bjames View PostOnly when running through 4foot chop i get spray. But under normal chop and even turning around to pick up a down surfer I dont get any water over the bow when crossing my own surf wake. The water tends to spray outwards more compared to the 2009 Moomba LSV i used to have. The moomba always got wet when faceing waves head on.
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'97 PS205 - I took a roller straight on at idle the first year of ownership and had a double dip incident. I had 3 adults up front and the bow dipped after the first roller and took on water, but then the weight from all the water in the bow lowered the nose even more for the second roller taking on even more water. It was a nasty cycle that took much more throttle than I was used to giving to trim up the bow. Needless to say, it was a bum pucker moment. Took awhile to get the water pumped out with the bilge pump.
You have to pay attention to all oncoming roller/waves in these boats. I don't restrict seating in my bow because of it. I have only dipped the nose once since then, but I mainly keep to rivers and small lakes that don't have large chop created by wind or large boats. Now, wake surfing wakes are another story. I'm testing the limits of rollers I can take from the side/parallel in my PS 205.
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Originally posted by jwardenjr View PostI have a house on the Colorado river (parker strip) and its gets blown out with boats on Saturday and Sunday afternoons and this was one of my main reasons for ordering an X-25 instead of a X-15 ... any X-25 owners having issues with water over the bow ?
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My 06 X9 will take water over the bow, but it all depends on who is sitting up thereand hey you gotta keep the bow seats and bilge clean somehow!
Sometimes I use the slow and wait method, sometimes the slight throttle method, depends on the situation. Once you drive it for a while, you will learn how to keep it from coming over in all situations. Experience and practice is all you need.
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I had an old Supra 89 Conbrio with open bow, talk about dipping the bow.... But my current 214 seems to be good about keeping her nose dry.
Like with anything with a direct drive and open bow, you gotta manage weight, conditions, and th water maneuver you are trying to attempt.
stay dry!
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I have a house on the Colorado river (parker strip) and its gets blown out with boats on Saturday and Sunday afternoons and this was one of my main reasons for ordering an X-25 instead of a X-15 ... any X-25 owners having issues with water over the bow ?
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Years of 'on lake' watching open bows get dunked when loaded in the front and no real way (other than throttle) to trim them underway I decided that what I would actually 'gain' in usable space with an open bow really wasn't that much. I'm talking older Tristars and Maristars...not new, modern boats.
I've dunked my prostar 190 two times (tidal wave over the windshield) and one partial. In all instances, I saw it coming but the passenger in the observers seat had no idea
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Originally posted by ProTour X9 View PostDont take the waves head on at idle.
They all do it. My neigbours CC 196 does it to, but as it's a closed bow it's not as much of any issue. Now if you hit them really hard in the CC it comes over the windshield..LOL....like a tidal wave!
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I don't have a bow issue but I have had a roller come over my closed bow. Climb my windshield and get the boat fairly wet. Nothing that would invoke terror. I love my Mastercraft but it will take on water. I operate several different boats of varying degrees of seaworthiness. It is courteous to not make wakes when passing some people in these different boats. I was taught from birth you don't shake the ditch fishermen when passing unless necessary. I have to go through a narrow pass often with one of my fishing boats and it is into rollers. People always tie up just inside of this pass but to keep from sinking my boat is has to be under power, bow lifted to break out. With that said--I will never hazard my boat to save you from a wake. Makes it rock and roll time.
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Some water over the bow won't hurt anything, and some times can't be avoided. I usually turn the boat at idle speed to take rollers from the side if possible. If anywhere near the rider, it is a much better bet to take some water over the bow than try to do anything with the throttle to avoid the rollers-rider safety first.
Not power turning to pick up riders as CiscoStu mentions, while also much safer and more courteous to everyone on the water will help avoid many bow rollers.
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I haven't taken any over the bow of my ps205. My friends 205 that I grew up skiing behind took water over the bow all the time. I think I'm just a little more anal about avoiding it than he was. My neighbor has the 20' wakesetter and his wife dips the nose a few times every trip.
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Our first year with the X-30, I took one over the bow as well... I thought the deep-V X-30 would be immune, but it's not. My rules in the boat are now - when we are moving, SIT DOWN. That way I can apply throttle when needed to get the nose up enough to avoid the roller. Not full throttle, just enough to get the nose up a few inches.
I also use the 'count to 5' rule when turning around to pick up a fallen rider - when they fall, throttle down to almost idle, and count to 5 slowly BEFORE turning. I taught my wife this as well, and she's better at it than I am. Works like a charm! The wake will pass and flatten before you can get into trouble.
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