2010 or 2011 Medallion Perfect Pass

[jgraham37128]

Ok, is there anyone who knows how to set up perfect pass on a 2010 or 2011 model? I've been in technology all of my adult life and have programed tons of things but this is by far the hardest thing I've ever tried to program. I can't figure any of it out and I have the book. The instructions are horrible and are not a step by step instructions.

Any help would be welcomed.Here's what I want to do. Set my boat up for surfing. I want to set up the speed and push a button. then I want to do the same thing for wake boarding and need to know how to go from one to the other.

A real big plus is how can I be going down the lake at 22mph as an example and press a button for it to hold this speed?

[chopp]

have you got the BIG display

[jgraham37128]

Yes I do. Completely factory no mods.

[jgraham37128]

2010 Big

Here's a pic of mine.

[chopp]

Ok great it's the same as mine. I will write up some instructions it's very easy to use.

[jgraham37128]

Make me feel stupid, at this point I don't care. I just want to get it working and know how to do it.


Thanks,

JG

[GoneBoatN]

I have an X-15 with BIG and here is my input. Basically, just forget about rider presets.

The problem is, while the ballast tanks do have gauges and the display will show the ballast tank levels correctly, they are filled to the preset level by running for a certain amount of time. So say you have the setting of 3.0 in the setting for how long it takes to fill the KGB tank. If in your rider preset you say you want the tank to be 50%, then the BIG will run the pump for .5 * 3.0. No indication in the manuals what that 3.0 value might be - I've assume it is maybe in minutes. Here is the issue. Your pump runs at different speeds depending upon the RPM the engine is running and the efficiency of the impeller varies as well. People are told that it is suggested to run the boat in neutral at 1500 RPM, but I don't recall if that is in the instructions. Also it will depend upon if you are moving (in gear) while running the ballast pump (due to flow over the inlet). It will also depend upon the efficiency of the impeller at the time. End result is that rider presets are not very accurate. It gets worse if switch between one preset and another without emptying as the incorrectness compounds.

So with the above being said, forget about "Rider presets". Just set the tank fill times to some realtively higher than necessary number and fill by hand. Stop filling when display shows take at the level you want it = simple. Now all that is left is rider speed. Simply engage the PP and use the up/down to change the speed.

The fun part is getting PP to work well given the ballast you run, the pull of the rider, etc. Read this thread as it may be of some help - http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/...ad.php?t=49216

A shame you are not close to me. I would just go out with you and show you how it works. Yep, the instructions (BIG) are not worth the paper they are written on. There was a software version update that was done on mine that made hints show up on the BIG screen as to what button to hit to do something. Hopefully you have that version as it made it much easier to use the BIG.

[GoneBoatN]

Is this the manual you are referring to - http://www.mastercraft.com/assets/manual/11.pdf as horrible?

Some notes:
Page 14 show the ballast configuration I was referring to.

Page 11 shows where you can change the speedometer calibration

[jgraham37128]

Yes, that's the manual.

An example is how do you get it to change from rpm to mph? I could never get it to change.

[jgraham37128]

Oh, and the ballast parts isn't really the big problem, the main problem is loading a rider that has been saved and then wanting to change the speed for the rider.

[GoneBoatN]

So given the above and not using "Rider Presets" -

1) while in the PP Screen (not rider presets aka List/Edit, but just the main PP screen), the cruise button will toggle PP on and off.
2) when you do not have PP on, the Enter button will toggle between RPM and Speed modes.
3) when you do have PP on, the +/- buttons will increase/decrease the Speed if in Speed mode and increase/decrease the RPM if in RPM mode.

Keep it simple and you will get along with BIG just fine.

[FoggyNogginz]

Here's a pic of mine.

I'm gonna guess a location and say Mine Lick Creek??

[GoneBoatN]

Yes, that's the manual.

An example is how do you get it to change from rpm to mph? I could never get it to change.

Just posted that for doing it manually. If you want to change it in a rider preset, look on page 11, second screen down on the left hand side shows where you change the option. Oh, BTW I don't think slalom will show up.

Again, different software versions had some different menus but a little play around and you should find it. Also, be warned that even when you call up a preset, pressing the enter button will toggle RPM/Speed so if you have someone not understanding the BIG driving, they can quickly get the settings incorrect by accident.

[GoneBoatN]

Oh, and the ballast parts isn't really the big problem, the main problem is loading a rider that has been saved and then wanting to change the speed for the rider.

So one thing you can do, is in the rider presets only set the speed/rpm. Then when you do call up that preset, it will not attempt to fill/change the ballast. At least that is how mine worked.

For me, I just make it the responsibility of the rider to tell me what speed they want and I don't use the presets. Then again, I only have the center trim tab and that is the only other setting on my boat.

[FoggyNogginz]

I have an X-15 with BIG and here is my input. Basically, just forget about rider presets.

End result is that rider presets are not very accurate. It gets worse if switch between one preset and another without emptying as the incorrectness compounds.

I COMPLETELY agree with this, and I never use the presets. Filling with timers is very unreliable on mine, and I never use the screen for this. I wish it worked better than it does, but technically I know that the timers are dependent upon suction rates of the entire system, which will change due to water temp, impeller, whether or not the flapper is completely sealed, which bag I filled first, whether or not I am running multiple pumps, etc.

Just my $0.02. To be honest, all that I ever use the screen for is the analog screen showing all of the gauges and for Perfect Pass.

Good luck.