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    I've been looking at a couple of boats and I have a question. I'm about set on getting another 85 instead of a 91-94. I love the responsive and light hull that the 85 has. I have a few more reasons, but that's the major one. What's the major difference in the 86 versus the 85? I've read info on the differences, but I want some owner/previous owner experience. I've been told to stay clear of a 87-90, but the 86 is supposed to have a similar lower hull to the 87-90. What's all of your opinions on this?
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    1985 MC
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    1986 MC
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    91-94 or another
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  • #2
    I voted '85 as that is what we had new as a kid and always loved the last yr for the Stars and Stripes which everyone seems to love. The '86 I believe has the same hull like you said but you better like rainbows as the look is quite polarizing. People either love them or hate them. I used to hate the look as a kid but it has definitely grown on me over the years. Love that hull so I don't think you can go wrong with an '85 or '86 and it's classic look. Never cared for the late 80s or early 90s boat looks or interior design.
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    • #3
      From a creature comfort, handling of waves/wakes, and skiing the 91-4 has it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SpeedRacer0125 View Post
        ............ I'm about set on getting another 85 instead of a 91-94. I love the responsive and light hull that the 85 has. I have a few more reasons, but that's the major one.
        ^^ This ^^
        You won't find a better handling hull. The 91-94 era is barelyclose to the handling responsiveness of the 85 (era) hull.

        The 86 will be the same as the 85.

        That said, the 91-94 era is a bit larger in a few dimensions and handles differently, but I am OK with that era too. You just have to push the 93 a little harder for responsiveness (in turns).

        All that said, the 205 is there again completely different. It pushes hard through a turn...does not respond near the 93 or the 85.

        I'd not be hesitant to own an 86 based on your requirements.

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        • #5
          Had the pleasure of riding around and behind my neighbor's 85 S&S this past summer. What a treat. Everything was as remembered nostalgically: the rumble of the 351, nimbleness of the small craft, very slight swim platform only large enough to put on the slalom stick, only driver and observer seat, S&S classic graphics, closed bow, and a whisper of a slalom wake. So cool. If you want a dedicated slalom tug, do the 85-86, or something more versatile, the 91-94.






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          • #6
            Very little difference other than graphics. I like the '86 as it is the only year with rainbow graphics. The stars were on 8-9 straight years. Very fun boats!

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            • #7
              I can also see having both an 85 and a 94.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by moosehead View Post
                Had the pleasure of riding around and behind my neighbor's 85 S&S this past summer. What a treat. Everything was as remembered nostalgically: the rumble of the 351, nimbleness of the small craft, very slight swim platform only large enough to put on the slalom stick, only driver and observer seat, S&S classic graphics, closed bow, and a whisper of a slalom wake. So cool. If you want a dedicated slalom tug, do the 85-86, or something more versatile, the 91-94.






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                • #9
                  I voted 91-94 ...prefer 94 , I have owned all three and as of now have an 86 , the 94 has more room and better wake for skiing plus fuel injection . And yes , I hated the rainbow on the 86 at first but after using it a few times it grows on you , I think it looks better sitting in the water than sitting on the trailer . If you do get into short line skiing you will get some spray from the boat with the 85 past 22 off . I am no expert by far but I have been told that the 86 has same top deck as the 85 but the same hull as an 87 .

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                  • #10
                    Get the one you like the looks of the best. All very similar handling boats. Water logged nailed it!

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the responses everyone. I was just told that the 87-90 style hull is a little tougher on the motor and it's a little underpowered. That's why I wondered, if the 86 hull was the same. I was told that the 87-90 had more "drag" based on the hull design, if that's the correct word to use.

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                      • #12
                        I've owned a 1985 S&S and now own a 92 PS205.
                        As far as ski wakes, the 91-94 PS wins hands down (even in 205 size), especially if dealing with prop wash/hump from a power slot. I still ski behind a '85 on a reg basis.
                        The S&S is way cooler, sounds meaner and handles like a go-cart. It's a driver's boat. Skis great, but gives up a lot of comfort from the later generation tugs. The '85 was a cracker box in rough water, the PS205 is only a bit better. Just my opinion.

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                        • #13
                          Power could be a whole 'nother animal.
                          I don't have an 85-6;

                          88 ps190 351W Ford 1:1 13x13 vs 94 ps190 350 Chevy 1:1 13x13

                          The 94 I have to more purposefully give it throttle pulling up a skier compared to the 88 - I think the 88 despite having marginally less ponies is lighter. I personally don't think I'd need an LT-1 or a slot trans in either boat - but I don't pull footers, have heavy family members, and am on a lake that's large enough that its rare to have enough calm water to spend any real time full bore.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 88 PS190 View Post
                            Power could be a whole 'nother animal.
                            I don't have an 85-6;

                            88 ps190 351W Ford 1:1 13x13 vs 94 ps190 350 Chevy 1:1 13x13

                            The 94 I have to more purposefully give it throttle pulling up a skier compared to the 88 - I think the 88 despite having marginally less ponies is lighter. I personally don't think I'd need an LT-1 or a slot trans in either boat - but I don't pull footers, have heavy family members, and am on a lake that's large enough that its rare to have enough calm water to spend any real time full bore.
                            Our 85 would pull footers no problem with the 351 and 1:1. It'd literally pull you out of skis, if you wanted it to. Haha

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                            • #15
                              See I think the 94 would easily also.

                              Last footer I pulled was with the 88, and his folks had an earlier 80's stars and stripes that wouldn't pull him footing anymore.

                              I think the boat had 2000+ hours and some glass work done, either way they said it struggled to pull past the high 30's.

                              would be very cool to do a side by side acceleration of the different generations of ps190's to see how they each do.

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