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  • #46
    Originally posted by FourFourty View Post
    I guess you haven’t priced a Paragon lately……

    Nautique has had an equally serious price jump recently as well. Paragon MSRPs in the mid $300k range are long gone……
    What exactly does a paragon have over a loaded MC anyways? Wakesub? Lol
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    • #47
      Originally posted by MC25 View Post
      What exactly does a paragon have over a loaded MC anyways? Wakesub? Lol
      I would guess $50K or so.
      Prior boats - (3) X14's, (3) Prostars, and a Tristar.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Lakelife View Post
        I assume once you sign the contract, give your deposit etc it a done deal.
        I wouldn't bank on it. Had an order in for two new Kenworth's for our shop since August. They called last week and canceled both orders. Said we can re-order, but at market price... ie, +$50k.

        A PO doesn't mean $hit these days. Seeing it across all suppliers.


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        • #49
          Originally posted by MC25 View Post
          What exactly does a paragon have over a loaded MC anyways? Wakesub? Lol
          Much higher quality build for one!
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          • #50
            “I assume...”
            “I have an agreement…”
            “I signed a contract…”
            “My sales rep told me…”

            If I was waiting on a new boat, I’d be using that time to scour the fine print on my paperwork. If ever the annoying “in these unprecedented times” phrase actually applied, this is it.


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            • #51
              Originally posted by FourFourty View Post
              I guess you haven’t priced a Paragon lately……

              Nautique has had an equally serious price jump recently as well. Paragon MSRPs in the mid $300k range are long gone……
              Originally posted by MarcusP1 View Post
              Roughly $481k.
              What?! Crazy. I had no idea

              Originally posted by MC25 View Post
              What exactly does a paragon have over a loaded MC anyways? Wakesub? Lol
              I think deep down you know thats a stupid question lol
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              • #52
                Originally posted by TolCarMan View Post
                What?! Crazy. I had no idea



                I think deep down you know thats a stupid question lol
                I’m serious? What does a paragon have over a fully loaded out MC?
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by WakePowell View Post
                  Much higher quality build for one!
                  Care to elaborate?
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by MC25 View Post
                    Care to elaborate?
                    I don't want to get into details in an open forum, but the quality of the 2022 Mastercraft I have now is not good. Items like the fit and finish, gel coat un-even and wavy and interior upholstery that is not lined up and has puckers.

                    I spend a lot of time in the newer Nautiques (G23's) and when the boats are sitting side by side the Mastercraft does not compare well. Nautique finishes the inside of their hulls in the storage areas and has superior hardware (hinges, latches, etc....)

                    Personally, I do not like the style of the Nautique Boats and the wakeboard wake is not as good as the XStar. But other that those items, the Nautique is in a higher quality and better boat for the dollar right now.

                    I hope that Mastercraft returns to quality builds because I love the brand and dealer we have.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by MC25 View Post
                      What does a paragon have over a fully loaded out MC?
                      Seadek everywhere, Better audio (JL ftw), Coolest/most functional tower in the industry, Bimini with rope pockets, 3 step walkthrough, Crazy interior lighting, ZZ8 Motor (600hp/608tq), Surf switch, Port flip seat... (and that's all standard)

                      This is just my opinion, but I think the P23 looks better on the interior. The star looks better on the exterior. Also, I priced out a P23 last night and it came out to $322k MSRP... maybe I'm not seeing something?
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by JohnE View Post
                        These circumstances are definitely disturbing.I can't imagine having an order submitted and the price is increased. I don't think the dealers are liking it either. It isn't helping them at all.
                        I'm sure the dealers are not at all happy as they have to deal with us disgruntled customers. Part of the reason for my color hesitation is that I haven't seen samples of Coastal Blue Flake or Cool Feel Sandstone in person. I've been asking since August to get a sample swatch of both before finalizing colors. Nothing... MC is not answering phones or sending swatches (dealer states this) Not very customer centric.

                        Someone noted on here about the buying experience of Malibu with color books, etc., and sounded like something MC can do. Also, think about the custom buying experience from Porsche or Ferrari. It's very different. Granted, MC doesn't do nearly the volume as car manufacturers, but to someone dropping this much coin on a luxury toy, MC's efforts aren't even close. They need to step up their game if they want to attract new customers and retain existing and repeat customers.

                        Below is Vision Statement from MC's investment page. I feel they are focused on internal customers rather than external customers with this latest move and dealers are left to pick up the pieces. Sad and opportunistic. I understand boat price increases if you haven't already placed an order, but doing this after you've already struck a deal on price and paid your deposit? What happened to "deliver owner satisfaction and peace of mind in all areas from initial purchase to service"? "These customer centric initiatives will elevate MasterCraft's reputation and result in brand loyalty and consumer advocacy." Really?

                        /Rant over


                        Vision Statement

                        MasterCraft Boat Company will be the world's leading manufacturer of water sports boats in terms of initial quality and market share. To our internal customers, being number one in each of these categories will drive profitability, job security and ultimately shareholder value. To our external customers this leadership will deliver owner satisfaction and peace of mind in all areas from initial purchase to service. Our marketing efforts will support the brand promise in an inviting and intuitive manner that focus on the unique attributes associated with owning a MasterCraft. These customer centric initiatives will elevate MasterCraft's reputation and result in brand loyalty and consumer advocacy.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by MC25 View Post
                          I’m serious? What does a paragon have over a fully loaded out MC?
                          When the Paragon's first came out, I went to the Nautique dealer and sat in it. The first impression I had was, holy crap this boat is loaded!, then I heard the price and was taken aback. I was looking at an X22 at the time and decided that for the increase in price, it wasn't worth going to a Paragon. Now with the MSRP of the Xstar S we spec'd out reaching near the Paragon's price, I don't know if the MC value is there. Our dealer will be getting their first Xstar S's soon and I want to demo it back to back with a Paragon and make an informed decision.
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                          • #58
                            Fun stuff with price increases..

                            Last week BU dropped another 8% on us. Locked in orders got a 3% jump. Which either the dealer has to absorb or the consumer. Which we all know how that’s going to go on a sold boat that had a price locked in months ago

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by WakePowell View Post
                              I don't want to get into details in an open forum, but the quality of the 2022 Mastercraft I have now is not good. Items like the fit and finish, gel coat un-even and wavy and interior upholstery that is not lined up and has puckers.

                              I spend a lot of time in the newer Nautiques (G23's) and when the boats are sitting side by side the Mastercraft does not compare well. Nautique finishes the inside of their hulls in the storage areas and has superior hardware (hinges, latches, etc....)

                              Personally, I do not like the style of the Nautique Boats and the wakeboard wake is not as good as the XStar. But other that those items, the Nautique is in a higher quality and better boat for the dollar right now.

                              I hope that Mastercraft returns to quality builds because I love the brand and dealer we have.
                              Holy guacamole that sounds horrible. Can you warranty the upholstery

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by clrussell View Post
                                Fun stuff with price increases..

                                Last week BU dropped another 8% on us. Locked in orders got a 3% jump. Which either the dealer has to absorb or the consumer. Which we all know how that’s going to go on a sold boat that had a price locked in months ago

                                Doesn’t sound like “locked in” means much.


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