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    For the past 35+ years I have used an old Taperflex flat bottom ski and happy with it. I am 52, 200 pounds and currently ski at 30 mph. New 2019 Prostar this year, so I have skied a little more than in years past. Only ski for fun, only ski when the water is calm, usually once a weekend. We are in Southern WI, so season is not super long. The old ski started to get a crack so I tried a newer, but still old, O'Brien combo ski that we had around. This ski has a concave bottom, like almost all skis now, and it felt to me unstable, moving right and left more than the other one. Probably designed that way. Anyway, took a hard fall and broke a rib, so skiing season is probably done for this year. If I need to get a new ski for next year, is one bottom shape better than another for an intermediate slalom skier? Should I ski at a higher MPH? Don't want to spend a fortune.

    Thanks

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    New boat = new ski IMHO. Even 10 year old ski's are completely different than today's. As a fortune, what price point do you mean ? Not sure where you live, but see if you can demo a few ski's, it is much easier to find the right ski fit for you and not spend a lot of money on the wrong ski. The Radar SENATE series ski's are a great place to start. Perfect ski for 26 to 34 mph, open water or learning the course. If you are not going to ski until next year, wait until next spring and buy yourself a 2020 discounted ski.
    1996 Prostar 190 W/ LT-1 & Powerslot

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    • #3
      If you can afford a 2019 prostar you afford a new ski.. $500 can get you an nice ski with bindings..

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      • #4
        Yes, $500-$600 won’t break the bank, no one around my area demos skis, so I want to make the right decision. Was just so comfortable with the old ski. I am guessing the new ones, with the concave bottoms react quicker to going left or right, just have to get used to it.

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        • #5
          Holy moly! My dad skied a Taperflex. The top was like a mosaic of bright shapes. Very 1970. Mom skied a Hook. Those were the days.. They are 80 now and it's time for you to nail that old ski to a wall and DEMO some new skis! The newer skis are way different than what you had. They want to be on edge. It will take some getting used to and worth the patience and adjusting it will take from you.
          neil.anderson63
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          Last edited by neil.anderson63; 08-04-2020, 09:32 PM.
          Screws fall out all the time, the world is an imperfect place.

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          • #6
            Might be the same ski. Mosaic bright colors and various shapes. Carpet where your feet go.

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            • #7
              Did the O'Brien combo ski have a plastic fin? If so, that is more of a culprit of the instability than the concave bottom.

              Plenty of great new skis you can pick up for $500 from Radar or HO.

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              • #8
                Yes it did, and the old Taperflex has a metal one. Never thought of that.

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                • #9
                  Get yourself healed up. While healing, do research based on height, weight, ability, type of skiing which you described in your post. Hunt down a few skis. Does your dealer have a shop? Make sure you ride a few before you buy.
                  Screws fall out all the time, the world is an imperfect place.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by twh67 View Post
                    For the past 35+ years I have used an old Taperflex flat bottom ski and happy with it.
                    I am 52, 200 pounds and currently ski at 30 mph.
                    Only ski for fun,
                    only ski when the water is calm,
                    usually once a weekend
                    This ski has a concave bottom, like almost all skis now, and it felt to me unstable, moving right and left more than the other one.
                    is one bottom shape better than another for an intermediate slalom skier?
                    Should I ski at a higher MPH?
                    Bbased on what you said above, what part of that is intermediate? I consider myself intermediate and am -28 capable.

                    You need a beginner ski, probably a 69” length. I am only guessing is that the ski felt unstable because you were riding it flat and slow. You will find with all new skis within the last 20 yrs, they will shimmy left to right when you’re not on edge. It’s almost a reminder to the skier to get it edged. Also, you need to stay at 30 MPH.
                    The sea, once it casts it's spell, holds one in it's net of wonder forever - Jacques Cousteau

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by slalomjunkie View Post
                      Bbased on what you said above, what part of that is intermediate? I consider myself intermediate and am -28 capable.

                      You need a beginner ski, probably a 69” length. I am only guessing is that the ski felt unstable because you were riding it flat and slow. You will find with all new skis within the last 20 yrs, they will shimmy left to right when you’re not on edge. It’s almost a reminder to the skier to get it edged. Also, you need to stay at 30 MPH.
                      SJ you are not intermediate! Maybe in the world of competitive skiing. You are an advanced skier but not elite. Anyone who can get thru a course is advanced... i say this because that action requires the mastery of all the skills of waterskiing. Kind of like martial arts which has black belt and then levels of black belt.

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                      • #12
                        I'll put you at ease - the Obrien Combo will ski horribly as a slalom because it is not a slalom ski. It has the front boot in the correct location to be ridden with one foot in the boot - that is not the same location it would be placed if you were to be mounting it as a slalom ski where the fact that you now add a second foot behind means that the center of weight on the ski is incorrect for slalom skiing.

                        In practicality - no combo ski will ever slalom ski well unless you move the boots.

                        I'm also nursing a broken rib from a 28 off crash of all things. Did a tournament with the broken rib last week and now I'm taking a break. Did not get to my average

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                        • #13
                          The property you are describing we call "hunting" And quite a few of the newer skis IMO hunt much less. I had a goode 9200 hunted like crazy, my syndicate omni and the senate I've ridden this summer hunted very little to none.

                          Flat bottom skis don't hunt and also have very little drag - if you want to experience something similar I would go with a Radar katana or HO Omni - as both of these skis have relatively low drag and in my experience don't hunt.

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                          • #14
                            I have been doing some research and might try the Radar Katana, obvious next year.

                            Thanks

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mikeg205 View Post
                              SJ you are not intermediate! Anyone who can get thru a course without tearing their rotator cuff is advanced...
                              There, I fixed it for you
                              The sea, once it casts it's spell, holds one in it's net of wonder forever - Jacques Cousteau

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