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  • #46
    looks great. since i thread jacked the wtb x30 thread with my question, i will throw it over here.

    i have a pair of extra brackets if got from mc x15 who lost his boat in hurricane sandy, i am planning on making a surf platform. do you think plywood would be okay for my trial and if it works make one out of teak.

    thanks.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by ttu View Post
      looks great. since i thread jacked the wtb x30 thread with my question, i will throw it over here.

      i have a pair of extra brackets if got from mc x15 who lost his boat in hurricane sandy, i am planning on making a surf platform. do you think plywood would be okay for my trial and if it works make one out of teak.

      thanks.
      Sure you can. I did the same thing but with 1x5 pressure treated wood. Just be careful of splinters and you should be fine.
      -Tim

      Making boomers great again!! Boomin'

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      • #48
        Originally posted by CantRepeat View Post
        Sure you can. I did the same thing but with 1x5 pressure treated wood. Just be careful of splinters and you should be fine.
        What is the most important factor in the surf platform-size (narrower so weighted edge of platform doesn't cut into wave) or raising the entire platform higher out of the water? Looking at making a surf platform before the summer and was wondering what your feelings are.
        2006 Maristar 200 SS

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        • #49
          Originally posted by rgardjr1 View Post
          What is the most important factor in the surf platform-size (narrower so weighted edge of platform doesn't cut into wave) or raising the entire platform higher out of the water? Looking at making a surf platform before the summer and was wondering what your feelings are.
          The purpose of altering the platform is to keep it from messing up the water coming off the surf side of the boat. If doing that by raising up the platform I think you would have to raise so high it would be kind of funny looking.

          I went with making the platform as large as possible without it touching the water while at surf speed. This meant narrowing it as well as shortening it up a bit. I tested a few different sizes to make sure I had it as large as possible but made sure it was out of the water while surfing.

          By far this was the most important part of getting a clean wave off of the boat. With the platform in the water I was getting that double lip you see on a lot of boats. It also impacted the over push of the wave.
          -Tim

          Making boomers great again!! Boomin'

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          • #50
            Originally posted by CantRepeat View Post
            The purpose of altering the platform is to keep it from messing up the water coming off the surf side of the boat. If doing that by raising up the platform I think you would have to raise so high it would be kind of funny looking.

            I went with making the platform as large as possible without it touching the water while at surf speed. This meant narrowing it as well as shortening it up a bit. I tested a few different sizes to make sure I had it as large as possible but made sure it was out of the water while surfing.

            By far this was the most important part of getting a clean wave off of the boat. With the platform in the water I was getting that double lip you see on a lot of boats. It also impacted the over push of the wave.
            I picked up a second teak platform last week that I plan on resizing to help with the surf wake. The width of the platform ended up being about 6" less (3" on each side) on the transom side of the platform than the platform that came on my boat. I've got some brackets coming and I have to add a support piece to the bottom for my FAE, but it will at least get me going in the right direction.
            2006 Maristar 200 SS

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            • #51
              hopefully this can been seen okay. went up to my storage yesterday and removed the teak platform and outlined it on butcher paper. also while up at the lake went by the marina that carries supra and Moomba. I was able to get a good look at their new surf specified platform.

              here is the outline of the platform and where the lines to the inside are going to by the surf platform I am planning on building.
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              • #52
                What about a plattform which ends at each side can be 'folded' upwards/out of the way when in surf mode, like winglets...

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                • #53
                  If you have a teak swim-step you can lay a 2x6 on top of the bracket and then mount three pieces together. It does a great job of keeping your original swim step, but lifts it out of the water for wave shaping.

                  I guess if you have a fiberglass swimstep I would imagine you could find some material to make that happen,,,


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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
                    If you have a teak swim-step you can lay a 2x6 on top of the bracket and then mount three pieces together. It does a great job of keeping your original swim step, but lifts it out of the water for wave shaping.

                    I guess if you have a fiberglass swimstep I would imagine you could find some material to make that happen,,,


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                    As far leaned over as my boat is while surfing I would think the would have to be raise about 6 or 8 inches to keep it out of the water. That just doesn't sound like a good option for me.
                    -Tim

                    Making boomers great again!! Boomin'

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                    • #55
                      Got any pictures of the updated wake?
                      2004 MariStar 230 VRS with X Package
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by LittleFuss View Post
                        Got any pictures of the updated wake?
                        No, sorry. It's been rather slow start to the weather here. I've only been out once these year and I didn't have the surf sac back in the boat yet. It was mostly a check ride after de-winterizing.
                        -Tim

                        Making boomers great again!! Boomin'

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by XStar08 View Post
                          What about a plattform which ends at each side can be 'folded' upwards/out of the way when in surf mode, like winglets...
                          That's a nice idea. I wonder about a detachable end could be stored in the boat while surfing.
                          -Tim

                          Making boomers great again!! Boomin'

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by ttu View Post
                            hopefully this can been seen okay. went up to my storage yesterday and removed the teak platform and outlined it on butcher paper. also while up at the lake went by the marina that carries supra and Moomba. I was able to get a good look at their new surf specified platform.

                            here is the outline of the platform and where the lines to the inside are going to by the surf platform I am planning on building.
                            Well I did my best impression of Tommy Nation today and cut up the extra teak swim platform that I picked up. It was already about 6" narrower than the one on my boat so I just tried to take as much material as I could off the outside corners. I didn't want to have to buy any more teak so I reused the outside support pieces and that somewhat dictated the finished size. I'll try to remember to take a picture of the cut down platform sitting on top of the old one when I get it up to the lake. The bottom view shows how far I brought the outside support piece over into the supports for the brackets. The last shows how much material I cut off. Now I just need to oil it up and get it on the boat.
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                            2006 Maristar 200 SS

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                            • #59
                              Looks really nice. You surely have some prior wood working skills.

                              I was thinking more of something that could be removed and then put back on. My fear is when I got to sell the boat and not having a full size platform.

                              Let us know how it works out for you.
                              -Tim

                              Making boomers great again!! Boomin'

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by CantRepeat View Post
                                Looks really nice. You surely have some prior wood working skills.

                                I was thinking more of something that could be removed and then put back on. My fear is when I got to sell the boat and not having a full size platform.

                                Let us know how it works out for you.
                                This project requires pretty basic wood working skills-I think anybody that owns the tools could knock it out pretty easily. I used a cordless circular saw, router with a straight cutting bit and round over bit, cordless drill, hammer, palm sander and putty knife. The hardest part was getting the outside support pieces off. They were glued on or the oil finish had them stuck on pretty good. I used a stiff putty knife and hammer to free them up. Once I cleaned the pieces up with the palm sander I could trace my lay out onto the platform. Rough cut the outline with the circular saw and glued and screwed the outside support piece in it's new location. I used the router to clean up the edges using the bottom outside support piece as the template. Then rounded over the edge. We'll see if it does anything once I get it on the boat and load up the sacks. If not I'll have an extra swim platform that I can alternate every year.
                                Last edited by rgardjr1; 05-29-2013, 05:18 PM.
                                2006 Maristar 200 SS

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