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    First off, much thanks to Skeeler for donating some old ballast timers for experimenting with!

    This will work with 2007 - 2009 and maybe 2010 timers. Timers need to look like the ones below. Ask here or PM me if you aren't sure what timers you have.

    I finally have a ballast timer solution that works. After a few beers and some reverse engineering, I was able to rewrite the firmware that controls the ballast timer. I got rid of all of the crappy logic that they tried to use to detect when the tanks are empty. They now work as a timed switch that will fill/empty for a set amount of time then turn off. No more turning them on only to have them shut off after 5 seconds.

    Now, to reprogram them is not for the feint of heart. You need to pull the timer box, remove the modules, take the modules apart, connect a programmer, reprogram, then reassemble. It also requires a special programmer and the correct firmware file. But, if anyone on here is as big of a geek about this stuff as I am, you have the tools and you want to reprogram your timers, let me know, I'll send you the file and tell you how to do it.

    Here is a picture of the setup I used but you can use other programmers also.
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    tr6coug
    MC Devotee
    Last edited by tr6coug; 12-22-2017, 02:45 AM. Reason: update info
    '07 Navy Blue X2 MCX
    http://www.wakeblaster.com/
    Ballast Timer Reprogramming Info
    Timer Reprogramming Thread

  • #2
    Wow, interesting but looks hard to do, even for a geek like me

    How do you connect the module to your reprogrammer ? need to weld some wires ? And how much for that MPLAB PM3 ?

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    • #3
      what address can i send you my timers to be reprogramed? heck you can even sell the 20 minute timers i added that i can't get to program

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      • #4
        I have one more you can reprogram

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        • #5
          tr6coug reprogrammed mine and they work great. The OEM were flakey at best and now after about 25 days of actual use, they have performed flawless............

          Hey, I think thats a picture of my timers being reprogrammed.........
          Currently schlepping on BIL's X46

          MISS "B" HAVEN

          2007 X2, Indmar 350 MCX (Sold)
          OJ 522 14.75 x 15.5
          Tugger: 2014 Ram 1500 Crew, EcoDiesel
          http://www.crowniehq.net

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Fab View Post
            Wow, interesting but looks hard to do, even for a geek like me

            How do you connect the module to your reprogrammer ? need to weld some wires ? And how much for that MPLAB PM3 ?
            The timer has a programming port (thanks Jabsco!) on the board, so no soldering is required. the PM3 programmer is about $900, but it is WAY overkill for this application, but I have it so I use it. You can use any cheap programmer that supports Microchip products.

            If anyone wants to tackle this, let me know and I'll hook you up.

            Originally posted by BrooksfamX2 View Post
            tr6coug reprogrammed mine and they work great. The OEM were flakey at best and now after about 25 days of actual use, they have performed flawless............

            Hey, I think thats a picture of my timers being reprogrammed.........
            Yup, Brooks is my Guinea Pig this year.

            Originally posted by snork View Post
            I have one more you can reprogram
            Cool, send me a PM.



            Several people asked me about doing this for them, so I set it up on my website. www.wakeblaster.com . I think the cost is reasonable, basically covers my time for disassembly, programming, test, reassembly etc. I'm always open to trading for beer though
            tr6coug
            MC Devotee
            Last edited by tr6coug; 08-09-2012, 03:51 AM.
            '07 Navy Blue X2 MCX
            http://www.wakeblaster.com/
            Ballast Timer Reprogramming Info
            Timer Reprogramming Thread

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            • #7
              i hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate my timers. Any idea if this will work in the 2007 timers? I'll package them up and send tomorrow if it will... I'll even ship a case of beer to you

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              • #8
                Originally posted by willyt View Post
                i hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate my timers. Any idea if this will work in the 2007 timers? I'll package them up and send tomorrow if it will... I'll even ship a case of beer to you
                yes! i have already been in contact with eric to get rid of the damm things in my 07 x2! you will probably beat me to it since i have to get up to the storage to pull the box. hopefully this weekend.

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                • #9
                  Yup, the '07 timers are what I reprogrammed in my boat.
                  '07 Navy Blue X2 MCX
                  http://www.wakeblaster.com/
                  Ballast Timer Reprogramming Info
                  Timer Reprogramming Thread

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                  • #10
                    Just curious if we will be able to adjust the fill times (like you can with stock timers) after you re-program?
                    2018 XT22 - Current
                    1985 SS - Current

                    2016 X2 - Sold
                    2008 X2 - Sold
                    2003 197 TT - Sold
                    1993 205 - Sold

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tr6coug View Post
                      Yup, the '07 timers are what I reprogrammed in my boat.
                      ...and my boat...........
                      Currently schlepping on BIL's X46

                      MISS "B" HAVEN

                      2007 X2, Indmar 350 MCX (Sold)
                      OJ 522 14.75 x 15.5
                      Tugger: 2014 Ram 1500 Crew, EcoDiesel
                      http://www.crowniehq.net

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 197 TT View Post
                        Just curious if we will be able to adjust the fill times (like you can with stock timers) after you re-program?
                        Right now it is hard coded into the timer. I haven't really investigated a method to adjust times yet. I'll have to think about that and see if it could be done reliably with the switches.

                        What is the procedure to adjust times on the stock timers?
                        '07 Navy Blue X2 MCX
                        http://www.wakeblaster.com/
                        Ballast Timer Reprogramming Info
                        Timer Reprogramming Thread

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                        • #13
                          I have a .pdf of the procedure somewhere I can send you.

                          Heres some info...

                          http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/...ad.php?t=40313

                          and

                          http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/...highlight=sacs
                          BrooksfamX2
                          MC Devotee
                          Last edited by BrooksfamX2; 08-09-2012, 09:36 PM.
                          Currently schlepping on BIL's X46

                          MISS "B" HAVEN

                          2007 X2, Indmar 350 MCX (Sold)
                          OJ 522 14.75 x 15.5
                          Tugger: 2014 Ram 1500 Crew, EcoDiesel
                          http://www.crowniehq.net

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                          • #14
                            best way to go to your website and follow instructions there?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by willyt View Post
                              best way to go to your website and follow instructions there?
                              Yeah. That works. I'll email/PM you my address. I can turn them around pretty quick.
                              '07 Navy Blue X2 MCX
                              http://www.wakeblaster.com/
                              Ballast Timer Reprogramming Info
                              Timer Reprogramming Thread

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