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Originally posted by moosehead View PostOz will be along to shed MN lake hockey tech.
Kevin and Jack represented MN well with some sound advice. Seriously though, all good advice on this thread.
In addition to snowblowers, and various home Zamboni / flooding techniques, we found this to be a key tool in the battle with nature;
https://www.amazon.com/SNOWPLOW-5054...004CSMBMG?th=1
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I was thinking which is always a dangerous thing and it came to me that during the summer i see countless yard sweepers on the side of the road for free. I am curious if i threw a small weed eater engine or similar on one and made a long handle how well that would work for sweeping ice.
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DIY Pete has some entertaining rink building ideas and seems to have quite a bit invested in his Rocky Mountain rink.
At about 16 min into the video he demos a power sweeper that might be what you are looking for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqX0Ai6_KXg
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I've actually been watching his channel and waiting for his fill video this year as well. he has some good info and i had the exact same issues as he had last year. clear ice, get it smooth, instant ice and snow fall then warm, then snow then garbage ice again, rinse repeat all year.
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https://youtu.be/yzIzbbwrkaY
If you jump to about 10 minutes in, this shows probably the easiest, least hassle zamboni set up. Just make sure you get a very flexible hose. They can really get stiff in cold weather. I'm going to try the bucket dump method shown on the diy Pete video.
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If the bucket flooding isn’t the ticket, and you have a supply of water to the rink and a rink rake (diy or otherwise), simply turn the rink rake over so the holes point upwards on your first pass and walk backwards to avoid making footprints on the freshly flooded areas. It will flood the rink without making ridges due to the water flow. You can even smooth it further by attaching a zam cloth or other material (fleece, old towel, etc) to the rink rake. The first pass may take awhile if there is a lot of snow, but successive floodings should be quicker.
diy rink rake instructions:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OG0DVkgYQT8
If you want a more durable rink rake, make it out of 1” copper instead of PVC (which is very brittle at low temperatures) and use quick connect hose connectors for ease of use:
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One thing that was difficult to learn early in our rink building days was poor water pressure combined with cold temps almost always lead to hoses freezing up or water freezing too fast on the rink. Carting hoses, pumps, ice augers and rink rakes down to the rink was a hassle and everything would freeze up in a hurry.
A couple tips for those that are newer to this crazy (so my wife says) hobby:- Keep the water running until you are done flooding to prevent freeze ups (i.e running water does not freeze)
- Try to be efficient when beginning & ending flooding especially in colder temps or things can get frustrating (see above)
- Also, when using a hose, always start from furthest side of the rink to avoid dragging hoses or walking on the part you just flooded.
- Flexzilla hoses which seem less likely to become stiff or kink in cold weather.
- Brass quick connect hose connections saved a lot of frustration as well (FYII: these seem to wear out & need replacing every few years)
- If you have any shutoff valves, make sure they are full flow valves they don't restrict water pressure.
- Move items (nets, rink rakes, hay bales, pucks, etc.) on the ice frequently or they may freeze in
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A small update on my end. So even though we still have open water on the late we have about 1/2" right now around the pier which is more than enough reason to get the pump out and playI will say this it was about 20 deg F with about a 10mph wind, not the best conditions. I started it up and ran it for about 5 minutes spraying ice and i can say it will be a learning curve but I do believe for those with lakes and a nearly unlimited supply of water this might be a good solution. The area that i put a lot of water on and stayed there for a bit of time are not quite as nice as the areas i put a lot of water on and stayed there a short period of time. I know that sounds a bit confusing but I what i'm trying to say is I believe a quick rinse over the top of the ice with a 2" or larger pump and not really just flooding it deep might be the way to go as it is like glass in the areas i basically rinsed with it. I'll keep it updated on how it is going and how it turns out. Now i just need enough ice to stand on out there and feel safe.....
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My ice is finally coming along. We had a few days in the 40s this week that melted a lot of our snow, but we got 3-4" yesterday. I plowed the pond off and tried out the new rake. My sump pump wouldn't pump water through this morning. Not sure if there was water in my hose that froze when I was getting everything ready or what the problem was. I had everything inside and got it set up as fast as I could. I went out later and used a diaphragm transfer pump and it worked great.1 Photo
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Ug, how hard can it be to make ice in Minnesota they say? Well, darn hard! I've done 5 backyard rinks and now one on our lake. This year I decided to skip the whole thing because it is a PITA and I don't skate. I got tired of being the nice guy so I gave it up. But down on our lake there is a guy that is a pro, major pro. He tops off 8 rinks on our lake for neighbors. #1 no cracks! He says fill them with slush and let them freeze for an hour before he pumps water on it. #2 a big pump. He has a 2" gas powered pump on the back of his ATV. He rolls up, checks for cracks, drills a hole to get water, drops his line in and fires up the pump. He can lay down 1/2-1" of water in minutes on the biggest of areas. #3 Don't add water when the sun is out or it is not at least below 25, preferably <20 degrees. He bops around the lake right after dark and does his thing. His ice is flawless and it takes him no time to cover all the rinks he helps with.
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Well last night we had freezing rain. it is supposed to be in the mid 30's the next few days and the ice is still to thin. However the good news is it is total garbage on top and later in the week it is supposed to drop so I will get to test out flooding again. Hey you gotta be a glass half full type of person right.
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