Official: "Its College Football Season" Thread

[stuartmcnair]

Alabama players could murder someone on the field, and ol boy would still defend them.

I went to A&M...I also have shots of Tim Williams getting held. It happens every single game. I don't blame officials for a loss because they suck equally.

[LDA6339]

Don't get me wrong, not saying the officials changed the outcome of the game, just saying it would have been a much different game if #30 on Bama was ejected, Jalen didn't score, etc etc


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[Mastercraftdave]

Don't get me wrong, not saying the officials changed the outcome of the game, just saying it would have been a much different game if #30 on Bama was ejected, Jalen didn't score, etc etc


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A&M des the same thing almost every year. They win the first easy games and then when they get into the meat of their schedule they collapse. One call doesn't change the outcome of the game

[CantRepeat]

Don't get me wrong, not saying the officials changed the outcome of the game, just saying it would have been a much different game if #30 on Bama was ejected, Jalen didn't score, etc etc


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Shoulda, coulda, woulda

[stuartmcnair]

Don't get me wrong, not saying the officials changed the outcome of the game, just saying it would have been a much different game if #30 on Bama was ejected, Jalen didn't score, etc etc


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From what was said today it was not targeting because he was a runner and not a defenseless player. Don't hammer me on that because I can't figure out what is and is not targeting half the time they call it. I don't think anyone truly understands that rule and how it is enforced. As for what would have happened if Mack Wilson (30) had been ejected? Not much, only plays special teams and comes in for mop up. True freshman.

I have the photos from the back side of that play and watched the video several times. That frame is from the play it just looked wrong because of the wall in the background was not what you would normally see from a shot going back (North End Zone has a taller wall with a fence on it, South has that short wall). It also looks like that was a very fleeting part of the play. I don't think he had the angle on that one but I know how frustrating it is. I watched that match up all day as those two will probably both be top 5 in the draft.

If stupid Photobucket wasn't down I have some other images that show just how bad the officials are. We actually joke about putting up galleries of missed calls - might lose our credentials though.

On a side note, I stood next to Miles and Hall as they warmed up taking a few shots for my son (MG his favorite player). Unreal how quick they are for their size. Those two are going to make lots of money. They were also very nice after the game.

[LDA6339]

My understanding is that targeting can be helmet to helmet of a defenseless player or crown of the helmet to helmet of any player.


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[stuartmcnair]

My understanding is that targeting can be helmet to helmet of a defenseless player or crown of the helmet to helmet of any player.


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I thought that was the case as well but being a runner seems to make a difference. The SEC office and the head of officials at the game made that point. I was listening to satellite radio College Sports channel and they were blasting the rule today because it seems to be interpreted by officials differently.

[Olaff]

A&M des the same thing almost every year. They win the first easy games and then when they get into the meat of their schedule they collapse. One call doesn't change the outcome of the game

It was WAY more than one call. #30 did the same thing again on the next punt return by the Aggies and they cut to a commercial break REAL quick when the officials ignored that one too.

[Olaff]

I thought that was the case as well but being a runner seems to make a difference. The SEC office and the head of officials at the game made that point. I was listening to satellite radio College Sports channel and they were blasting the rule today because it seems to be interpreted by officials differently.

Quoted from the NCAA 2016 Rulebook:

"No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul."

This specifies a hit with the top of the helmet, but not necessarily a hit to the opponent’s helmet.

Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:

Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet.

Enough Said. There is no mention of ball carrier or not. It was targeting, and they didn't call it. It's possible to beat the #1 ranked team, but you can't beat the refs.

[mustangtexas]

I was at the Texas Tech vs OU game Saturday night. Unbelievable offensive show and to see so many NCAA records set was a bonus.

[LDA6339]

Tech fans spitting at/on as well as throwing chewing tobacco cans at Baker Mayfield was pretty trashy. But I've never heard good things about those fans


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[stuartmcnair]

Quoted from the NCAA 2016 Rulebook:

"No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul."

This specifies a hit with the top of the helmet, but not necessarily a hit to the opponent’s helmet.

Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:

Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet.

Enough Said. There is no mention of ball carrier or not. It was targeting, and they didn't call it. It's possible to beat the #1 ranked team, but you can't beat the refs.

So, this should have been targeting? Forearm to helmet and all...quit *****ing about the refs. As I said, they suck for everyone.

[Timr71]

Keep worrying about the officiating. The reality is this: after moving the ball 75 yards on seven plays to take a 14-13 lead, A&M ran 30 plays in the final 28 minutes for a total of 52 yards and zero points. That's 1.7 yards per play. Combine that with a turnover that generated points, and there's a very small chance to win. Even smaller when playing the #1 team with the #1 defense on the road. There's no such thing as a perfectly officiated game. But even if this game was perfectly officiated...A&M doesn't win.

[shepherd]

Agreed.

And michigan shouldn't be in the top 10. They haven't played anybody. Go Illini!

Ha!!!!!

I'm just getting caught up here.

They only beat PSU 49 - 10

[Maristar210]

Ha!!!!!

I'm just getting caught up here.

They only beat PSU 49 - 10

Quit stating facts. Buckeyes cant deal with facts Shep.