Engine flush hose in place of fake a lake?

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  • yomotha
    TT Regular
    • Jun 2019
    • 66

    Engine flush hose in place of fake a lake?

    Might be a dumb question, but can I use the engine flush hose connection to run water through the engine instead of using a fake a lake to run my engine out of water? My guess is no, but I'm not really sure.
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  • Tookeymonster
    MC Devotee
    • Sep 2017
    • 1281

    #2
    Yes, that is exactly what it is for. Just make sure no one turns the water off and you have plenty of pressure.

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    • eecyclone
      MC Devotee
      • Oct 2014
      • 1222

      #3
      Does this flush location also work for running antifreeze through the engine?
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      • yomotha
        TT Regular
        • Jun 2019
        • 66

        #4
        Originally posted by Tookeymonster View Post
        Yes, that is exactly what it is for. Just make sure no one turns the water off and you have plenty of pressure.
        Oh, interesting. Well, I bought a fake a lake not knowing I could use this connector instead. This is my first year with this boat so I'm still learning what's what.

        I want to fill the gas tank and then add stabilizer as I'm pulling the boat out for the season, so I'll use this connector to run the engine to allow the stabilizer to work it's way through the system.

        Thanks

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        • Cyoder1
          TT Enthusiast
          • Apr 2015
          • 242

          #5
          eecyclone,

          Using the fitting is exactly how my Xstar was winterized at the dealer. They put a small sump pump in a 5 gallon bucket and used that to help push the pink into the fitting and on to the motor.

          Chris

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          • Thrall
            MC Addict
            • Jul 2004
            • 5187

            #6
            Originally posted by yomotha View Post
            Oh, interesting. Well, I bought a fake a lake not knowing I could use this connector instead. This is my first year with this boat so I'm still learning what's what.

            I want to fill the gas tank and then add stabilizer as I'm pulling the boat out for the season, so I'll use this connector to run the engine to allow the stabilizer to work it's way through the system.

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            No, fake a lakes are a pain in the @ss at best.
            The flush connection is meant to run water through while the engine is running. Never just flush water through, it can fill up in the exhaust manifolds and get into the cylinders.
            Without a flushing hookup, I simply remove the raw water hose from the hull valve and stuff a garden hose down it, turn water on full blast and start the boat immediately.
            '06 X2 MCX

            "I understand why some people may not want to do this the way I have recommended but I can't understand the death grip some people have on a toilet plunger with a hose fitting." -JimN

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            • yomotha
              TT Regular
              • Jun 2019
              • 66

              #7
              So don't hook the hose up and let it run for long before starting the engine? I might have to put a valve on the hose to control both from within the boat. I don't really like the sound of water getting into parts of the engine it shouldn't. Makes the fake a lake sound safer, but I haven't done either method yet, so I don't really know much at this point.

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              • bloup101
                MC Fanatic
                • Sep 2018
                • 572

                #8
                I remove the raw water hose from the hull valve and put it in a 5 gal bucket, I put 2 garden hose in the bucket and let the engine pump what it needs. You can finish by shuting off the garden hoses and manually add plumbing antifreeze in the bucket. Shut off the engine when the bucket is emptied of antifreeze.

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                • Cyoder1
                  TT Enthusiast
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 242

                  #9
                  When my winterization was done they had a hose attachment with a valve between the garden hose from the sump pump and the flush connection. Filled the bucket with anti freeze and started the sump pump making sure the valve was closed. Jumped in boat, opened valve and immediately started motor. Sucked 6 gallons through, stopped motor, then closed valve. Very quick and easy.

                  Chris

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                  • jus
                    TT Regular
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 60

                    #10
                    Anyone got a recommended hose connector to use in this flush point? The one I m, I screwed in but it didn’t seal nicely...
                    Current: 2020 XT22 5.3 GDI
                    Past: 2014 X25 5.7
                    Past: 2006 X2 5.7

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                    • yomotha
                      TT Regular
                      • Jun 2019
                      • 66

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Cyoder1 View Post
                      When my winterization was done they had a hose attachment with a valve between the garden hose from the sump pump and the flush connection. Filled the bucket with anti freeze and started the sump pump making sure the valve was closed. Jumped in boat, opened valve and immediately started motor. Sucked 6 gallons through, stopped motor, then closed valve. Very quick and easy.

                      Chris
                      My Ilmor manual has a non-pressurized glycol method where I can just drain the existing water with a valve, close it then remove exhaust hoses on each side, raise them up and fill them with the glycol until filll and reattach. No need to run the engine. Your method sounds similar to the pressurized glycol method.

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                      • Cyoder1
                        TT Enthusiast
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 242

                        #12
                        Sounds right. The dealer told me the sump pump wasn't necessary because the motor should suck the antifreeze out of the bucket just fine but they figure it can't hurt having the extra help of the pump.

                        I believe when doing the non-pressurized method you have to fill the sea strainer first and then fill the exhaust hoses? The sea strainer on the GDI motors looks like it would be difficult to fill due to the way it's mounted. Also, I haven't looked closely at the exhaust hoses but on my old X25 they used special clamps on those hoses that needed to be cut off and replaced with regular hot clamps. In the back of my mind I would wonder if regular hose clamps were sufficient why wouldn't Ilmor have used them in the first place.

                        I'm no expert on winterization by any stretch. I went to the dealer with the new boat so I knew how to do it going forward. Their method seemed pretty easy so I'll just do it the way they showed me.

                        Chris

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                        • yomotha
                          TT Regular
                          • Jun 2019
                          • 66

                          #13
                          Yes, forgot about the sea strainer. The hose clips look pretty standard to me on my engine; nothing special that I can see. Anyway, I used the engine flush connection to run the engine after adding the fuel stabilizer and it worked like a beauty. I just added a hose valve as well so that I could adjust the flow from within the boat as required.

                          Thanks

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                          • gwozhog
                            MC Devotee
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 1781

                            #14
                            the toilet plunger fake a lakes are a good way to ruin your boat. I could never get mine to work on the first try and always end up getting soaked. I bought this contraption on ebay. 85 bucks and money well spent.
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                            • JimN
                              MC Master Poster
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 14092

                              #15
                              Originally posted by eecyclone View Post
                              Does this flush location also work for running antifreeze through the engine?
                              It does, but not as well as a hose that's connected directly to the raw water pump or just after the hull fitting because some can escape and loss of seal creates a path for air to get in with the anti-freeze. Gravity and a good seal work best.

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