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Old 05-17-2019, 04:37 PM
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Mastercraft website has manuals for most model years...I would look it up in the year appropriate manual for you model and engine configuration...

Iirc, there should be a nameplate on it also....probably painted over in black so look carefully

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Thanks Johnny. No nameplate. I think it was a sticker on the top that disappeared many years ago. The glue residue is still there however.

I'm pretty certain it is a Hurth now based on google image searches on both the Hurth and Borg Warner velvet drives. Now I just need to confirm the model to make sure I get the right seal and where to get it.
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Old 05-17-2019, 05:21 PM
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Thanks Johnny. No nameplate. I think it was a sticker on the top that disappeared many years ago. The glue residue is still there however.

I'm pretty certain it is a Hurth now based on google image searches on both the Hurth and Borg Warner velvet drives. Now I just need to confirm the model to make sure I get the right seal and where to get it.
I can say with 100% certainty that is not a Velvet Drive.
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Old 05-17-2019, 06:08 PM
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Post some pictures of the work. I'd like to see/hear how this goes.
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Old 05-17-2019, 07:46 PM
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I can say with 100% certainty that is not a Velvet Drive.
Thanks. Skidim says they can't even get the Hurth seals anymore for some reason. I will call ebasicpower again on Monday and see if they will be more helpful.

Started to disassemble everything hoping to be able to pull the trans out this weekend. Will post pics for those interested.
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Old 05-17-2019, 09:06 PM
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Thanks Johnny. No nameplate. I think it was a sticker on the top that disappeared many years ago. The glue residue is still there however.



I'm pretty certain it is a Hurth now based on google image searches on both the Hurth and Borg Warner velvet drives. Now I just need to confirm the model to make sure I get the right seal and where to get it.
I think it is a hurth...will get a pic of mine tomorrow to compare...

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Old 05-17-2019, 10:41 PM
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Thanks. Skidim says they can't even get the Hurth seals anymore for some reason. I will call ebasicpower again on Monday and see if they will be more helpful.

Started to disassemble everything hoping to be able to pull the trans out this weekend. Will post pics for those interested.
Another plentiful source is halemarine dot com.

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Old 05-17-2019, 11:40 PM
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Thanks Johnny. No nameplate. I think it was a sticker on the top that disappeared many years ago. The glue residue is still there however.



I'm pretty certain it is a Hurth now based on google image searches on both the Hurth and Borg Warner velvet drives. Now I just need to confirm the model to make sure I get the right seal and where to get it.


Looks just like my ZF Hurth 1:1


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Old 05-18-2019, 12:00 PM
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Well, this is getting interesting. Seems no one carries an input seal for a ZF Hurth 450D. Spoke with a guy at Hale who said they changed the seals a bunch of times and its difficult to find out what fits with what model anymore so they quit carrying them. I also don't have the serial number for the transmission because the tag is long gone.

I'm still calling around but he suggested I pull the current seal, hope it has measurements or a part number on it and try getting a matching one at an auto parts store.

Anyone have any better ideas? If I get the time I will pull the tranny and the seal this weekend and post up pics.
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Old 05-18-2019, 03:30 PM
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Here's a pic of the hurth 450 from 95 and serial number.

The ZF Hurth guys in florida should be able to help.

The replacement trans is now the 45C. The last 3 digits are the version in serial number.

Here are a few part numbers... 3312 301 030. Old p/n was 413883.

Looks like perfprotech.com has them.

Hope that helps.. please let us know i have the same tranz



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Old 05-18-2019, 03:33 PM
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Here's a pic of the hurth 450 from 95 and serial number.

The ZF Hurth guys in florida should be able to help.



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Thanks Mike, that should be helpful.
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