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Old 05-16-2021, 02:46 PM
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https://youtu.be/mATJ2bgdxL4

Not the best thought out or choreographed exercise...but I do feel I need to carry the torch a little since 440 doesnít have a boat.

Not meant to be apples to apples, or scientific comparison to say that one is definitively better than the other....I was just out with some friends and I brought a tape measure. I definitely could have played around with the settings and done some stuff different, but Iím not boardco- I donít get paid to make videos and sell boats, I want to enjoy my time on the lake.

My point is just that the X boats are in the same realm as the other ďbest in the worldĒ surf waves...the rest is about setup and personal preference.

Of note, Iím 6í2Ē ; 210 pounds (thanks covid). Iím way bigger than the boardco guy. He is also much more talented than me...and this was my second run of the season- still rusty- and wearing a full wetsuit, riding my normal 4í7Ē board (pretty small for a guy my size).

Not really worth watching the video, so if you donít want to click the link- I can just tell you I was about 30í back at 12.5mph and could recover from the curl of the wave fairly easily...the rollers coming off the lake were making it challenging.


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Old 05-16-2021, 02:56 PM
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Honest question from someone who primarily wakeboards: Does big vs biggest really make a difference for most people here? Most of us are limited by our skillset, not the wave. I see the same thing in wakeboarding. Until you get to the point of throwing pro-level tricks, what does it matter? I'm throwing the same tricks behind my 205V stock wake as I would behind a perfectly tuned latest-gen X-star.
No. It legitimately doesnít. I can do my entire bag of tricks behind a direct drive Malibu.
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Old 05-16-2021, 03:52 PM
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Honest question from someone who primarily wakeboards: Does big vs biggest really make a difference for most people here? Most of us are limited by our skillset, not the wave. I see the same thing in wakeboarding. Until you get to the point of throwing pro-level tricks, what does it matter? I'm throwing the same tricks behind my 205V stock wake as I would behind a perfectly tuned latest-gen X-star.

I 100% agree that at a certain point you need to stop b$&!*ing about the wave and work at being a better surfer.

With that said, when you throw a trick wakesurfing you lose speed...and a more powerful wave (not necessarily just bigger) will help you from losing the wave and recover. This is different than wakeboarding, it can definitely help you progress, but also can be a crutch, also like wakeboarding big wakes.

If you need an M235, or a Centurion, or an Xstar to stay in the wave after trying a 360...youíre doing something wrong...just like if you can only jump the wake on a wakeboard behind a sacked out G.


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Old 05-16-2021, 04:17 PM
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Yeah I mean, the measuring tape tests are pretty cool. I wouldn't have known the pockets were that long. But at the price points of the boats we're discussing, the difference in a couple of feet of pocket length would be towards the bottom of my consideration. Even if I were primarily surfing.
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Old 05-16-2021, 11:32 PM
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Yeah I mean, the measuring tape tests are pretty cool. I wouldn't have known the pockets were that long. But at the price points of the boats we're discussing, the difference in a couple of feet of pocket length would be towards the bottom of my consideration. Even if I were primarily surfing.
This would make a great on going new thread to start.
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Old 05-17-2021, 12:17 AM
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Honest question from someone who primarily wakeboards: Does big vs biggest really make a difference for most people here? Most of us are limited by our skillset, not the wave. I see the same thing in wakeboarding. Until you get to the point of throwing pro-level tricks, what does it matter? I'm throwing the same tricks behind my 205V stock wake as I would behind a perfectly tuned latest-gen X-star.
I think for the average maybe 1 invert itís not a big deal. But if your looking to progress and learn. Itís makes a huge difference hitting a wake the sends you effortlessly vs a wake where 50 % of your energy is used up trying to get some air. We have progressed through boats. 22 Ď blue water. 2007 x15 to an Xstar. And it defiantly makes landing tricks easier the bigger the wake is. I donít know where I would be categorized tho, multiple 180s 360s 5-6 inverts.
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